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? on offset pin 1 inch add a leaf

Discussion in 'OffRoad Design' started by wayne, Jul 24, 2001.

  1. wayne

    wayne 3/4 ton status

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    Hey Stephen it looks like I am finally getting ready to order all my stuff from you and wanted to know does it cost extra for the offset pin location in the add a leaf. I spoke with Steve Fox on this and he said to go with 1 1/4 inch offset because he thinks his with 1 3/4 inch offset is to much. Thanks.

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  2. Stephen

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    We may put a 1" and 1 1/2" on the same block for the production kit, that way you have your choice. Final price isn't set, it should add to the price since we have to do more hand fabrication work on them, but hopefully won't be too bad. Sorry it's a little vague, we're just not up to full speed producing them yet.
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    How much will the offset add-a-leafs cost per pair? And is there a additional charge for a angle on them to help with the pinion angle? thanks

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    You can get something to offset the pinion angle? I'm definetly interested in that!!

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    The ones that I pretty sure we are talking about are actually relocating blocks for use when you use the shackle flip. When you install the shackle flip it moves the rear axle forward in. These relocation blocks simply move the axle back towards the rear of the vehicle to its stock location or real close to it.
     
  6. Stephen

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    We have cut them for pinion angle correction before, but I'm not sure it's going to be something we can do as an option due to having to set up to mill them each time, or having to keep a herd of different sizes available. We're definitely looking into it, we can solve a lot of quirks all at once with the right part.

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    That'd be great for me. I put on a 4" lift and would really like to realign that angle. Let me know if you're going to be setting up to cut any like that, and put me down for a set.

    Thanks!!

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    Just an FYI guys. I mean an offset pin location to move the axle back on the spring, it has nothing to do with the pinion angle.

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  9. Stephen

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    I think we're all talking about doing both: offset, and angle. Keep in mind that moving the axle on the spring will change the angle a little, it's not much, but technically it's there.

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    Have any of you guys looking for angles on your blocks tried calling a local machine shop to see what they'd charge you??

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    I called 3 places here in So. Ga. and they wanted $90 each to make me a set. Thanks to ORD they made me some at cosiderable savings.

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    NO NO NO, I'm talking about getting the angle cut on ORD's block, not getting your own blocks made! I'm not trying to steal Stephen's business here, just trying to help those of you who need pinion angle corrections with other ideas!

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    We're looking at doing the angles in our shop, it's just figuring out what to do. We may just do them in 2,4 and 6 degree, and you can choose the closest one to what you need. We could do more too I guess. Much past that and you should probably move the perches.

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    Now that sounds like a good idea. Let me know what you decide.

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    forgive my ignorance but what would moving the axle do for you in the world of wheelin

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    It moves the axle rearward because the shackle flip moves the axle forward a bit. This just centers the tire in the fenderwell, which could prevent the tires from rubbing so much.

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    I dug up some old pics of my K5 with the 2.5" lift and 33 x 9.50's, kind of neat to see what it used to look like, it was really nice!
    Anyway, looking at the pic, the tire is a little forward in the rear wheel well. Maybe we should see if anyone has before and after measurements to see if the flip does move it forward. Just doing some geometry on it, I don't think it can move forward in the opening with a stock spring, but with a lift spring, it can.
    But regardless, there are a variety of reasons for moving it back, some of which may be important to some guys, some maybe not.
    Increased wheelbase
    decreased departure angle
    longer rear driveshaft
    more room in the opening for a larger tire without cutting

    Thanks

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    ive seen some pictures of trucks with shackle flips and it looks like it does move it forward.....

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    One thing that has gone unmentioned is the centering holes in the ubolt plates on top of the springs will not line up anymore with an offset pin in the block? The centerline of the axle and spring isn't centered anymore from the shift of the axle backwards and the springs staying put.

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  20. Stephen

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    Yup, you have to drill a new hole in the ubolt plate for it to work out. In the rear, you end up with a new hole, if you do it in the front, you just use a bit to dimple the plate enough to clear the bolt head. Not really a major operation.

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