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One Cop's View of the Drug War. This one isn't a video.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Greenblazer-AZ, Aug 19, 2002.

  1. Greenblazer-AZ

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    One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    This is probably the most credible and convincing links I've posted.

    This one may even shake up some of you who are passionatly opposed to my point of view. I dare you to read it.

    http://www.leap.cc/publications/endprohnow.htm

    BTW To the CK5 Law Enforcement Guys:

    You can join this police officers organization secretly so you won't lose your jobs.

    http://www.leap.cc/
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

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    passionatly opposed to my point of view

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    You just don't seem to get it, do you?


    It's not that we necessarily oppose your point of view ... we are just sick and tired of hearing it.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    He makes a good point, Alcohol and Tobacco are bad for you too.


    Sorry had to do it /forums/images/icons/grin.gif
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    Yeah, alcohol and tobacco are also illegal, too. /forums/images/icons/tongue.gif /forums/images/icons/grin.gif
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    I totally agree with you, and this retired cop. This whole situation surrounding the legality of marijuana is total BS...
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    I have to admitt that I belive the WAR ON DRUGS is a waste of tax payers money. It's a fight that can not be won. The prison systems are busting at the seams. I wouldn't leaglize dope, but I think I'd make it so the cops just take it away if they cought someone with it instead of locking everyone up. Give ya a fine and be done with it. The laws for possesion are outragous. But the reality of it is that it won't change!!! If anything, the laws will only get stricter!!! /forums/images/icons/frown.gif
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    good artical dude.

    That Xcop sounded like a war criminal trying to ease his mind.
    Thats got to suck.
    To finally figuring out that what he was doing for his lifes occupation,
    was really screwing up more lives than he was helping.
    He thought he was doing good,
    He turned out to be a bigger culture vulture than the drug dealers.

    Karma is a two way street, the decision is in which way do you what to go.
    Iv seen some $hityy u-turns, but woooo look out...
    screeeeeeech! what a dick..

    <font color="orange">dogman </font color>
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    so it was the Milk, all along:)
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    wow surprisingly non harsh remerks kool.But hey green blazer this is a long essay maybe you could tell me what parts are interesting to you.Not that i dont want to read it all but there is alot that ive either already heard or its just this guys life story at least it seems that way from the begining.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    here ya go, the best part of the artical:...

    "The attitude about drugs in the US has been shaped by countless politicians raising the
    specter of a country lost to a zombie population of drug addicts ready to kill to get their fix.
    Those politicians make no delineation between soft drugs such as marijuana and hard drugs
    such as heroin or cocaine. They link marijuana with heroin, as a "gateway drug," (3) which is
    about as sensible as linking heroin with milk as a gateway drug; after all, nearly 100 percent of
    heroin users first drank milk.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    To me the most interesting part is that a former narc has seen the light and is helping to spread the truth.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

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    But the reality of it is that it won't change!!! If anything, the laws will only get stricter!!!
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    There are signs that things are changing. All over Europe laws have been changed, and in some states Marijuana possession has already been decriminalized. Arizona and Nevada both have initiatives on the ballot this November.

    Nevada's would make Marijuana possesion legal, and Arizona's would make it a $250.00 ticket instead of a felony.

    Our leaders are asleep at the wheel and we will keep sending them wake up calls until they wake up to the fact that the drug war is a counterproductive fraud that wastes way too much money and causes way more harm than drugs ever could.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

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    calls until they wake up to the fact that the drug war is a counterproductive fraud that wastes way too much money and causes way more harm than drugs ever could.

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    There are parts of the drug war I could do without. Wait until the bastards are convicted before confiscating their personal property.

    And yes, we've spent too much money on it. It would be much cheaper to make a run to Home Depot, buy some lumber and rope and have ourselves a couple threee hangins' a day. That would cut back on the prison population.
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

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    This is probably the most credible and convincing links I've posted.

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    Just one question, what makes this stuff credible and convincing?
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    I will agree that the drug laws as they are do not work. Have not read the entire article, but sounds like a man trying to off load a personal gilt problem.

    Alcohol and Tobacco are both drugs (I dont use either one, BEER has got to be the nastiest tasting crap in the world).

    My personal opinion on the drug laws is to make them harder, forget prison time for 2nd offences of the selling variety, PUBLIC HANGING /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

    Aint nothing like seeing a couple of dope dealers swinging from a rope in the town square to make a few people think, hmm this might not be a good idea.

    Now on the serious side, I think they should legalize some drugs, then TAX hell out of them like they do alcohol and tobacco. There are other far reaching implications with this though. You would have to sign and be responsible for your own healthcare and dental. Not to mention other changes that I know I am too short minded to see. Point is that there would have to be quite a bit of changes made in quite a few different directions, it could not be just a flat out o.k. drugs are now legal. If you were "high" and had a car wreck that killed someone I think you should be tried for murder and put to death if conviceted. Don't worry I feel the same way about DUI drivers if they cause a death.

    Oh well off the soap box /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

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    BEER has got to be the nastiest tasting crap in the world

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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    I thought this was a 4x4 site? DOH - OFF TOPIC FORUM !!!!! I forgot where I was!
    Musta been cause of all the DRUGS I took in the 60's! Gee - I wonder what else I
    forgot??? Go watch Ozzie for a reality check "dude". /forums/images/icons/crazy.gif
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    Yum...hangings!! And put them on TV as halftime shows. You tell me who wouldn't chuck out money on pay per view to see some sucker get hanged and somene else get their head blown off for drugs. Personally I think they should start with the kiddie porn freaks, then the rapists, then on up the scale. By the time you go to drug dealers most of them would be dead from the other crimes!!!
     
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    Re: One Cop\'s View of the Drug War. This one isn\'t a video.

    In reply to the public hanging thing: This is The United States of America not Southeast Asia where there are countries that exicute people for drugs, but even the threat of exicution does not stop people from using or selling drugs.

    In reply to the credibility thing: Simply that someone that is a former narc that has seen it from that point of view has seen that what freedom fighters are saying is true. The drug war does more harm than good.

    People like you that would like to murder people for chosing a healthier alternative to alcohol (ie marijuana) are intitled to your opinion but it is not what this country or the citizens that you were hired to serve are about. I find your bigoted opinion very distastful and it's no wonder that public opinion of police is so low. Yes I called you a bigot. I define that word as someone who hates people that are different from themselves, which seems apparent by your view that people should be hanged for prefering pot to alcohol. I wonder if you would feel the same way if someone you loved was caught with drugs.
     
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    Bigot, nah, I don't hate people that are different from me, unless you have a twin everybody is different from you. I can't say I hate drug users, more like PITY them.

    Kinda like what Forest Gump says in the movie "stupid is as stupid does". So it's o.k. for you to post your rambling and yet quite ignorant (yes I said ignorant, STUPID people are the ones I don't like most /forums/images/icons/grin.gif ) opinions on how drugs are great... but as soon as someone disagrees they are a bigot. Hmm, go fire up some more reefer and kill off a few more brain cells, I am sure you have plenty to spare.

    As far as the comment about credibility, hell I can SAY I am whoever I want, I could say I was an ex CIA, FBI, yada yada yada, saying it does not make it so. Show me proof the person that typed the article on your link is an ex-whatever he claims to be. Got some pics of him in uniform, maybe a copy of his i.d. Some type of PROOF that he actually worked where he claimed and that this is the same person that wrote the article.

    Hell I can type up all kinds of drivel and put someone elses name to it and post it all over the web and claim that Bill Clinton wrote it.

    As far as murdering people, don't have a clue as to how you came to that conclusion, never said anything about murdering them. On the other hand, a couple of months ago we had a dopehead steal a bus and after a lengthy chase ran down an embankment hit a Wal-Mart sign and KILLED a youg boy at a boy scout yard sale in the parking lot. I guess from your point of view the DRUGS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. He was pushed to be stupid by "the man" and that he should not be tried for MURDER. My personal opinion is that he should be castrated and hung by the neck untill dead. I did not say hanged, I said hung. There is a difference. Hanging is where the knot is off to one side and when you drop it breaks your neck. Hung is where you actually strangle instead of getting off easy with a snap.

    As far as public execution, no it wont STOP all the drug dealers, nothing will stop it all, there is always a group of idiots that are willing to risk anything for a high. If drugs were made legal tomorrow, over half of the "users" would quit, because the thrill of "doing something wrong" and getting away with it would be gone.

    Oh well, I could argue with you for hours on end, and type pages and pages of responses for anything you care to post, but I have better and more important things to do, like work on my K5 /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

    One final thing, I don't personally care what you think peoples opinions are of Law Enforcement. I do my job and I do it well, thats exactly what it is to me a JOB, not a lifestyle.

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    How is bud healthy? You seem to have developed a pattern here in wanting us to learn about it like it's lollipops. You ever smoke it? You claim you don't. Where I think the war on drugs is a joke I don't honestly see how you can speak of this subject unless you really have been a user of it. That is unless you've used it in the past. But if you are a past user then something made you quit, what could have that been to have made you quit? People don't stop using unless they wake up and realize what it does do to you. I've used it, I was younger and thought it'd be so great. It's pure crap and I regret every thinking it was cool and something fun. The war on drugs might be pointless but the war on yourself when you load up is a scary one. It's not worth it and there's nothing healthy about it.
     

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