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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ncbloodhound, Nov 11, 2004.

  1. ncbloodhound

    ncbloodhound 1/2 ton status

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    ...would they have an honor guard for a terrorist. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
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    Caption: Nov. 11: Yasser Arafat's coffin, draped with the Palestinian flag, is carried by a French military honor guard.

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  2. Burt4x4

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    I'm curous now. I don't have a very good idea of what he did to lable him a terrorist. If he was why didn't the US goverment go after him?
    Do you have any stories or past events about what he did?
    I have only heard the name and know nothing about him /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif
     
  3. ncbloodhound

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    hmmm, suicide bombings in the mideast for one obvious example. Just google him, Fatah, and the PLO and you will find plenty.
     
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    I'm curous now. I don't have a very good idea of what he did to lable him a terrorist. If he was why didn't the US goverment go after him?
    Do you have any stories or past events about what he did?
    I have only heard the name and know nothing about him /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif

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    Don't have time to go in depth, but he was the leader of the PLO, which perpetrated terrorist acts against Israel since it's inception. This includes plane hijackings, the Achille Lauro was brought up, and of course the suicide bombers which I do believe orginated with the PLO. Arafat, as the leader, had some responsibility with this.

    Why didn't we go after him? Because him and his organization was primarily Israel's problem.

    As for this jackass getting military escort, that is sickening.
     
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    Ahhh I gotcha, My simple mind doesn't overstand why people kill people anyway /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
    Crazy world we live in /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
     
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    ...would they have an honor guard for a terrorist. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
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    Caption: Nov. 11: Yasser Arafat's coffin, draped with the Palestinian flag, is carried by a French military honor guard.

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    Jesus, you don't expect them to carry GUNS do you? They're FRENCH . /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif


    Oh, and to add to Bubba's post, he also administrated the payments to suicide bomber's families, which by the way, used to be partially subsidized by our old buddy Saddam.
     
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    Any bets on John Kerry attending the funeral?
     
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    yeah, he's definitely a terrorist. His scum bag henchmen killed Klinghoffer (an old wheel-chair bound American guy) when they took the achille luro (sp?) hostage. Most of the times an Israeli got killed by a fanatic in the last 3 decades, it had either the direct support or permission of Arafats "government". Hes a world class piece of [censored], and Im tired of CNN.com, President Clinton, and the French trying to elevate him to some sort of royalty or "world leader". Bush got high marks from me for not ever meeting with him in person. American presidents shouldn't deal with terrorist.

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    pretty sure he was linked to the murder of the Israeli olympic team in Munich too...

    he was a first class scumbag... him recieving the nobel peace prize was the equevelent to Libya being the head of human rights at the U.N.. absurd....
     
  10. 3 on the tree

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    I'm not taking sides on this one, but read history of Israel during and after WW2. What about US soldiers and the Native American people? Its easy to stereotype when using tunnel vision.
     
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    I'm not taking sides on this one

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    Yes you are.

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    but read history of Israel during and after WW2

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    As recorded by who?

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    What about US soldiers and the Native American people?

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    And this makes it ok for Arafat to be a terrorist? I guess since Adam supposedly sinned, we can all sin right? Gets us off the hook. Take no responsibility because somebody else might've done something wrong as well? Reminds me of my 8 yr. old. "But, but, so and so did this and that" as an answer when the spotlight comes upon something he did wrong. Or is this another case of America is always at fault ala Micheal Moore and his ilk?

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    Its easy to stereotype when using tunnel vision.

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    It is only stereotyping when you have absolutely no factual basis to rely on.
     
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    Anyone who commits murder should be punished to the full extent of the law. As for Israel, their "terrorists" are called freedom fighters, but to the British they were terrorists. In the north Gen. Sherman is considered a brilliant tactician-in the south he is an arsonist. Perspective is a curious thing.
     
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    i'm quite familiar with Israel's history... thank you...

    no tunnel vision here, i call em as i see em... no diverting issues here either.. /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif

    he was a terrorist, plain and simple..

    i could care less that he denounced terrorism in 88.. personally, i think he was probably full of it and loving every attack by Hamas.. his recieving the Nobel Peace Prize was a travesty.
     
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    Having done a little of my own studying of Arafat in the past, I dunno if I celebrate his death that much. He WAS a murdurer and a terrorist, and there's no statute of limitations on Murder, but, he did become more of a force for peace than terror in his later years. With him dead, there's now room for a more vengeful/insane/sadistic leader to take his place. The palestinian people are directionless, anyone of palestinian or probably even Muslim heritage can probably easily move in and fill a pair of Arafat's bloodier shoes.

    Biography did a show on Arafat last night (I saw it around 2 am). It was very very interesting. It showed how he eventually got what he wanted, but didn't know what to do with it (Palestinian territory), and was too obsessed to pass the reigns to someone that could stabilize it as a country. The most recent violence was from the growing power of Hamas as Arafat lost ground with the palestinian people, and the PLO started becoming impotent with no clear mission (as Arafat started to work with pre-Sharon Israel toward peace).

    I think one of the most bizarre news images I'll always remember (from years ago) is watching Barak and Arafat enter a doorway, each refusing to go first because he wouldn't turn his back on the other man.
     
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    I'm not taking sides on this one, but read history of Israel during and after WW2.

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    ok.

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    What about US soldiers and the Native American people?

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    My family came over after WWI, don't blame us. In any case, I think if we compare how "native americans" (who aren't native and aren't american either) were treated by crackers it compares VERY favorably with how the "native americans" treated the indigenous population that lived in the Americas before they arrived. People like to think of "native americans" as people in total harmony with nature and all spiritual and crap... well, they completely annihilated the truly native people of the continent and not a single bit of that primitive culture survives to this day. Pretty much slow, but massive genocide on a hemi-spherical scale.

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    seems that way.

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    As for this jackass getting military escort, that is sickening.

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    We may not always see eye to eye... but you 'n me are on the same sheet of music there. The only consolations are: a) Its the French "military" - thats like a monkey with a gun. b) There is no honor among thieves, cowards or the French. c) He is still dead... finally.
     

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