I might be in the market for a winch, but not sure on what one to get. Some ways I want hydro, but if for whatever reason my motor dies, then I'm stuck, twice. Thinking more electric, get some rig or forklift batteries ought to run it OK, and if the motor dies I can still get it out. I don't do hardcore wheeling, so I wouldn't think that I would need to spend $1500 on a winch, but I don't want some POS winch either. Read a couple posts on winches, and I thought they were all able to be submerged?? That will happen for sure, so need something that can handle that. Seems anymore noone has a truck to go wheeling in, so will be going alone, and don't want to get stuck in the middle of nowhere, or next to the river when another friggin flood comes along. Looking for opinions, want to get at least a 12k.