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Oregon legislators, what are they smoking?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Bubba Ray Boudreaux, Dec 31, 2002.

  1. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    Some good chit apparently......

    THE POWER TO DESTROY
    Big Brother eyes
    taxes by the mile
    State considers space-based technology to collect revenue
    Posted: December 31, 2002
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com



    The latest proposal by government to collect tax revenue may seem out of this
    world – that's because it is.

    The state of Oregon is considering the use of satellite technology to charge
    taxes based on how much mileage you drive your car.

    The Road User Fee Task Force set up by lawmakers last year plans to ask the
    2003 session to authorize testing of a vehicle-mileage tax, reports the
    Associated Press.

    Oregon was the first state back in 1919 to adopt a gas tax, and today
    officials expect revenues to flatten as gas mileage improves and more hybrid
    cars come on line.

    Jim Whitty, the task force administrator, says his group is looking at a
    per-mile charge of up to 1.25 cents to generate funds comparable to the
    current gas tax.

    "We also have to have a way to track mileage only within the state," Whitty
    told the AP. This rules out basing the fee on odometer readings, which would
    include out-of-state driving.

    "Technology has improved to the degree that this can be done, with an
    electronic device," he said.

    The device in each car would be linked to a Global Positioning Satellite
    system, or GPS, which allows pinpoint navigation by bouncing signals off
    satellites.

    The task force hopes to organize a test of this system if lawmakers approve,
    checking to see if the system even works, then conducting a yearlong
    evaluation.

    There are several options for actually collecting fees. One is to send
    vehicle owners a monthly bill, another is to outfit gas stations so they can
    read vehicle transponders and collect the tax at fueling stops.

    If you think the new method would do away with the tax on fuel, think again.
    In assessing the new levy, drivers would get credit for gas tax already paid.


    To protect drivers' privacy, using the system to track cars in real time
    would be illegal. New cars would be required to have the GPS technology.
    Owners of older cars would be allowed to take part by retrofitting them.

    A final decision on the proposal is not expected to come until the 2005
    legislative session at the earliest.
     
  2. newyorkin

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    Owners of older cars would be allowed to take part by retrofitting them.

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    I'd have a few choice words about that. I'm already fuming that I pay $8 road use tax with my registration every year. WTF is that??? Why not just jack up the registration $8, dumbarses??

    They should just cut the BS, and sending everyone a breathing bill. You breathe, you pay $1000 a month to big brother. You don't pay, they come stop your breathing. How f-ing ridiculous is government becoming?????

    This is a bad day for me to read CK5. This is like the third post that's got me pissed off.
     
  3. mudhog

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    yes its official they are on the crack pipe /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    Owners of older cars would be allowed to take part by retrofitting them.

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    I like that quote. It's like people would WANT to do this. Oooh, ooh, retrofit my car, I wanna pay more taxes!
     
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    lawmakers are made up of people who went to law school for 8 years and then found out they were too dang stupid to make it as a lawyer but, they sure as heck could write and speak legaleeze and just love the sound of their own voice so they have to make up a hundred new laws to make em feel better, like they have saved the whole entire world from itself, take em out of public office and they would be lost, thats just my opinion though..and ya know about opinions right? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    i say let the roads go to hell! We abviosly dont care road or no and if you think about it there would be less trafic deaths beocuse we would all be driving trucks! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  7. Pure Insanity

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    Something like that is simply scary. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif Think about it, they COULD get away w/ it for 1, they have the ablity to track our EVERY move obviously for 2, and a $1.25 per mile! WTF! as if owning operating registering and maintaining a car or truck isnt expensive enough? /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif for point 3.

    Ill bet this is one of those wonderful laws that looks great on paper to these bozos /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif till they realize that THEY have to pay said tax too IF it were to pass by some fluke! /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif

    Ill bet it wouldnt look as good on the paper the check is written on when they get to pay up also. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    Hey pure insanity it was only 1.25 cents per mile /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif. That is crap any way you look at it. But I'm sure people that are as familiar with their vehicles as we are could remove the stupid little tracker and leave it at home so that they "never drive anywhere" /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif. I'm suprised that something like that is being proposed in Oregon and not California... /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    I'm suprised that something like that is being proposed in Oregon and not California...

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    sssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Sacramento will hear ya and those nutcases would pass that chit /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    Hey pure insanity it was only 1.25 cents per mile

    [/ QUOTE ] HEHE! I just noticed that. OOPSIE! Thats what I get for posting when Im asleep. My post shows 10:??. Well thats Colorado time. Im a few hrs ahead on the east coast.
     
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    my home state is trying some messed up things.
    oregon like a few other states is a flat rate state. meaning all cars are 35 dollars to register. large trucks and trailers have a flat rate as well.
    if they were to go on the % scale like most states do they would profit from it greatly. yes people would b!tch moan and complain like whores, but i would be more that happy to pay. especialy since it would lower fees for me to about 7 - 15 dollars every year or 12 to 25 dollars every 2 years.
    older the ride the less it costs.
    Grant
     
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    The device in each car would be linked to a Global Positioning Satellite
    system, or GPS, which allows pinpoint navigation by bouncing signals off
    satellites.


    [/ QUOTE ] id take my GPS box and see what kinda mileage the governers a$$ gets in a year.
     
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    Ya know it's funny how far in the future they can look ahead when they see that they might be missing out on a buck or two because of the onset of hybrid vehicles that use little to no gas and thus losing gas tax revenues. But as far as OUR future is concerned they can't see two minutes ahead! Example: California's 36 billion dollar debt... /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    not quite the same, but i saw a show on the Autobahn in germany. german drivers have to pay upwards of 2000 dollars to get their drivers licenses. think about that. why dont the "rulers" of oregon just jack up the car registration a couple of hundred and call it quits. enough of this big brother crap.
     
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    Looks like socialism at it's finest! /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif
     
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    Growing up in Eugene, OR this doesn't suprise me at all. Oregon has tried to socialize health care, numerous times tried to pass a sales tax, and now there is special election to raise state income tax.

    I could go on all day about all the crap the Eugene City Council has done, or tried to do. Eugene's new nickname is "The People's Republic of Eugene."

    Anyways there is no a plan like that would ever pass the voters.
     
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    when you commn back down here?
    Grant
     

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