Dismiss Notice

Welcome To CK5!

Registering is free and easy! Hope to see you on the forums soon.

Score a FREE t-shirt and membership sticker when you sign up for a Premium Membership and choose the recurring plan.

Overkill????

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by mudjunkie 82, Nov 8, 2005.

  1. mudjunkie 82

    mudjunkie 82 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Posts:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland Ohio
    I was checking out the new alloy axles for the dana 60's. I do trails and mud ,no rocks so do you think they would be overkill for what I do. They reccomend alloy u" joints for these so that will raise the cost above 800.00 for the whole set up :yikes:
     
  2. SUBFAN

    SUBFAN 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2003
    Posts:
    2,334
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Davenport, Ia
    A blown 540 and you are asking about overkill? :eek1: :haha: :haha:

    I thought that was your middle name. :D
     
  3. mudjunkie 82

    mudjunkie 82 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Posts:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland Ohio
  4. cbbr

    cbbr 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2004
    Posts:
    14,681
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    High velocity, Low altitude
    I would never have guessed that you even knew what overkill was with a sig line like this. :D
     
  5. mudjunkie 82

    mudjunkie 82 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Posts:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland Ohio
    ran my rig all summer with no major breakage untill last week, The one guy we wheel with asked me to pull him out of the creek that was all shale and 2 feet of water. what he did not tell me that the heep behind him that was buried big time was hooked to him! I hit the skinney pedal big time and snapped an inner and outer shaft on the pass. side of my 60. I figured while I have it apart i might up grade the axles
     
  6. cbbr

    cbbr 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2004
    Posts:
    14,681
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    High velocity, Low altitude
    You should have pushed him back in.
     
  7. mudjunkie 82

    mudjunkie 82 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Posts:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland Ohio
    thought about running him over :eek1: :haha:
     
  8. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

    Joined:
    May 19, 2001
    Posts:
    45,029
    Likes Received:
    362
    Location:
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Considering the engine you have... yeah you'll prolly need some bling shafts. I notice the Bobby Long demo'd his axle snapping machine at SEMA... I guess the results were..

    Stock Dana 60 inner - 8,300 ft. lbs. before failure
    Yukon Dana 60 35 spline 4340 - 11,000 ft. lbs. before failure

    The D60 is a pretty beefy axle... 40% stronger than stock is even beefier. :) The yukons can be found pretty cheap too.. they tend to be sub-$475 for a full set, depending on where you get them. I have a set myself... just waiting for their 4340 super joints to be released before I run them.

    j
     
  9. Emmettology 101

    Emmettology 101 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    May 9, 2000
    Posts:
    8,126
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    FL
    LOL.. You have that 540 AND you are friends with Jerry.. You are concerned with overkill?? Thats Jerry's middle name! :thumb: :haha:
     
  10. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2002
    Posts:
    3,453
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Norton, Oh
    Actually Overkill is my favorite heavy metal band...has nothing to do with my rig... :p:

    Hey Mud,
    I'm surprised you're not eyeing out those 4340 shafts from Overson Engineering...or possibly some M300 shafts...they'll only set you back $2000. :doah:

    Did you bust the ears...or snap a shaft???
    I hear Yukon doesn't warrantee the ears... :(
     
  11. Emmettology 101

    Emmettology 101 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    May 9, 2000
    Posts:
    8,126
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    FL
    Another shaft option that is stout is the D60 Birfs from Longfield!!! 300M shaft/stub, 4340 Bell... Turns up to 45 degrees... On the Longfield shaft testing machine, they coudln't break it. But they have broke a 35 spline chromo shaft.

    Pirate Link


    Pic:
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2006
  12. 78Buford

    78Buford 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2005
    Posts:
    264
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Ohio
    I’ve run 35 spline GM stubs cut down for the Ford 60, and OEM Spicer 35 spline (fat ones, not neck down) since April 2004. I had 38's until last December, and 42's since. 7100 pound rig with a tired 460. Recently I rebuilt a 469 with 9.5-1 compression, headers, and the X-Treme Energy 256 cam. It currently has a stock cam back in it until around Christmas due to aftermarket lifter failure. With the aftermarket cam it will make around 525 foot pounds of torque from 1500-3000 rpm, and (only) around 335 horsepower from 3500 to 4500 rpm. It sounds as if your engine is significantly stronger than my budget torque engine.

    This past Sunday, I had a buddy weld all of the Spicer solid joint caps into the axles....several of the ears are getting sloppy. This should get me to the spring. I plan to buy Yukons, and I’d hope that the Super-Joints for the 60 are released by then...they’ve been promising them for nearly all of 2005 but they aren’t yet selling them.

    Either way, if you romp on the big block, I’m sure you’ll deform the ears on stock axles. Jerry, from what I understand, Yukon offers a 5 year “no questions asked” free replacement warranty on the axles if used with alloy joints. IE: CTM’s or the Superjoints...if they ever get around to releasing them.

    I don’t think it’s a bad investment when you consider that OEM shafts will run you around $100 for each inner, and $65-$70 for each stub. Say $330 for OEM vs. around $500 for the significantly stronger Yukon axles.

    Roy
     
  13. mudjunkie 82

    mudjunkie 82 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Posts:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cleveland Ohio
    I'am not loaded with dough like you are :whistle: :rotfl: :rotfl:busted all four ears off :eek1:
     
  14. 85mudblazin

    85mudblazin 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2004
    Posts:
    3,951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Austin,TX
    Then it sounds like the joint busted and took the ears with them (very common).
     
  15. rjfguitar

    rjfguitar 3/4 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Posts:
    9,095
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    california
    Mud,

    You have like a bajillion horsepower under the hood, I'd go with something stronger than stock. :D :laugh:
     
  16. 79k20350

    79k20350 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2004
    Posts:
    7,757
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Ct
    i love the birfield idea. if i could afford it thats what id run, you could back out the stops and get a better turning radius and still have more strength than superiors :D
     
  17. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2002
    Posts:
    3,453
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Norton, Oh
    I warned yah about that motor killing that 60. :p:
    $2000 would be a couple side jobs...I got one for yah. ;)

    At least the Yukon's would be replaced when you break them. :doah:

    It may be a good idea to look at Rockwells...I can get you a pair for $900.
    Then you can sell your 60/14 combo..make some cash too. ;)
     
  18. Emmettology 101

    Emmettology 101 3/4 ton status

    Joined:
    May 9, 2000
    Posts:
    8,126
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    FL
    ORD's site has about the best description on axleshaft warranty. I think it applies to Warn's though:

    "Damage caused by ujoint breakage is not covered. If you break a u-joint, the ears shouldn't distort to the point that a new joint cannot be installed. Sometimes a little dressing up with file may be necessary. If the ears are broken and there is an intact ujoint that you can send with the assembly, you should get a new shaft, IF they don't show signs of being beat up after a joint broke. Make sure you stop right away if you break a joint."


    Not sure how Superior and Alloy USA handle their long length warranties.
     
  19. steve_kibbe

    steve_kibbe 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2004
    Posts:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Spartanburg, SC
    You answered your own question :D
     
  20. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2002
    Posts:
    3,453
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Norton, Oh
    Hummm....very interesting info Mike.

    Remember how my ears got stretched...and the joint was still good.
    But that was on those Mexican spicer shafts.
     

Share This Page