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parts with my shckle flip...

Discussion in 'OffRoad Design' started by shaggyk5, Jan 31, 2002.

  1. shaggyk5

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    finally got my flip kit the other day. (Thank you ORD!![​IMG])

    While perusing the directions, I read that you are supposed to install one of the provided washers on each side of the connection. Following this would mean i should have 24 washers, yet i only have 12. Am i missing some? Its not a problem for me to go out and get 12 more washers, i just want to make sure i know whats going on.

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  2. jekbrown

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    shagster,

    same thing happened to me. I ended up buying some more washers. Unfortunately my local store didnt have the hardened grade 8 type washers in the right size, so I went with the thickest el-cheapo washers I could get. Still...it woulda been cool to get 24 with the kit. No doubt stephen is gonna tell us that for the emotional damages we have suffered, we get 10% off our next order. =p

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  3. Greg72

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    Shaggy,

    Actually what Steve will tell you is that he has been meaning to update his instructions (ask me how I know!) [​IMG]

    It is only necessary to install the washers on the inside of the framerail. The shackle-flip bracket itself is SO thick that adding a washer on that side really doesn't buy you anything strengthwise.

    So if you are planning on installing the kit the way I did (bolts installed from inside framerail pointing out) the correct sequence is:

    Washer on Bolt
    Bolt through Framerail
    ORD Shackle Flip Bracket to Framerail over protruding bolts
    Pinchnuts onto bolts
    Torque 'em down....and keep on trucking! [​IMG]



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    well, a washer on the bracket side might prevent the finish of the bracket for being scrapped/chipped off as much by the tightening of the bolts..and therefore preventing rust better. =p

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    thanks guys. This is exactly what I wanted to know. Ill probably go grab some cheepo washers for the reason stated above, ill pop the good ones on the inside where they are needed. [​IMG]

    Just need my front springs and then we're clear for takeoff!!! [​IMG]

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  6. Stephen

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    Adding a washer to a piece of 1/4" plate doesn't do much for you but it would help a little with the finish. I may consider going back to 2 per bolt but for now just put the hard washer on the frame side. Greg's recommendation about the bolt going from the inside is a good one, I like to see the nut and threads so you can tighten it properly and keep an eye on them.

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    Steven, I just bought a used ORD flip from a member on here and have a question about the washers that are supposed to be used. The flip I bought came with hardware but I am pretty sure that it's not the hardware that was originally supplied with the kit when it was new since the washers appear to be just normal thickness. Is it a good idea to use hardened head bolt washers of the proper size? Also are the bolts you supply a course thread or fine thread?
     
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    Grade 8 7/16" coarse bolts, grade 8 washers, and stover nuts.
     
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    What is the difference between grade 8 washers and any other washer? I am in the auto parts/Machine shop business and never heard of a grade 8 washer nor have ever seen any in any auto parts store or hardware store. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    Head bolt washers are a thicker than normal hardened washer and maybe that is what is meant to be grade 8. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    My local Bolt store (Budget Bolt) has different grade washers. Grade 5, 8, etc. I do know that the grade 5 ones deflect more under high torque than the grade 8 ones do.
     
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    I don't know that there's a standard for washers, a lot of times you see them sold as "hardened" washers in addition to being called higher grades. The idea is all the same, you just need something to spread the stress over a larger area of the frame, or bridge a bit of a gap if you had to do some egging on the holes to get it all to line up. As long as the material is thick enough and/or hard(strong) enough to do that, you're in good shape.
     

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