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Perfect Country and Western Song

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by 4by4bygod, Jan 7, 2006.

  1. 4by4bygod

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    Sled's Garth thread gave me an idea.. what's your idea of a perfect country and western song? post the lyrics, and if you've got a lot of favorites, post 'em up.

    Don't be shy about telling us if the song has a special meaning for you. some of us won't make fun of you.

    I'll go first -

    Waylon Jennings - Are you sure hank done it this way?


    It's the same old tune, fiddle and guitar
    Where do we take it from here
    Rhinestone suits and new shiny cars
    We've been the same way for years
    We need to change

    Somebody told me when I got to Nashville
    Son you finally got it made
    Old Hank made it here, we’re all sure that you will
    But I don't think Hank done it this way
    I don't think Hank done it this way

    Ten years down the road, making one night stands
    Speeding my young life away
    Tell me one more time just so I understand
    Are you sure Hank done it this way
    Did Ol' Hank really do it this way?

    I've seen the world with a five piece band
    Looking at the back side of me
    Singing my songs and one of his now and then
    But I don't think Hank done 'em this a'way
    No I don't think Hank done 'em this a'way

    Take it home
     
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    Truck got stuck - Corb Lund Band

    The Chev got stuck and the Ford got stuck
    But the Chev unstuck when the Dodge showed up
    But the Dodge got stuck in the tractor rut,
    Which eventually pulled out the Ford
    With some difficulty

    Well more rain than we’d seen for a thousand years
    Caused financial joys and biblical fears
    It caused some smiles it caused some tears
    But more to the point of our story
    For The first time in the collective memory,
    That old brown prairie that had been so dry for so long was very muddy
    Boggy and sticky
    We’d pull one truck out and get another stuck in
    And motors would roar and tires would spin
    We’d sink right down, down to the diff, and we’d all take turns and do it again
    Till no one could move, we’d call one more friend,
    Come on out here, we need you…bring your truck

    The Chev got stuck and the Ford got stuck
    But the Chev unstuck when the Dodge showed up
    But the Dodge got stuck in the tractor rut
    Which eventually pulled out the Ford
    And the Dodge

    They got me stuck in the mud, so they couldn’t rehearse
    And Chavase too has missed his work
    Richie, he now fears the worst, he stood up his ex wife she called him a jerk
    Course Holman didn’t have nothing better do to, ‘cept ranch.

    The Chev got stuck and the Ford got stuck
    But the Chev unstuck when the Dodge showed up
    But the Dodge got stuck in the tractor rut
    Which eventually pulled out the Ford

    Well it was truck after truck, we all got stuck
    ‘cept the big old four by hutterite truck
    We all thought “lord are we in luck!”
    But he wouldn’t come anywhere near us,
    Mighty neighborly, mighty neighborly.

    So we used a lot of our backs, a little of our brains
    We jacked up the jacks, and snugged up the chains,
    We all did our very best to refrain from shovelin’.
    We put what timber we had, underneath the wheels
    And we was all out of sand, but managed to steal
    Two sacks of the best modern canola seed you ever did see,
    That ‘oughta give us some traction

    The Chev got stuck and the Ford got stuck
    But the Chev unstuck when the Dodge showed up
    But the Dodge got stuck in the tractor rut
    Which eventually pulled out the Ford

    We spilled genetically modified canola seed
    That was genetically modified for controlling the weeds
    And for big old yields and margarine oil, raised hell all over that native prairie soil
    Agriculture Canada is definitely gonna be looking for us
     
  3. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    David Allen Coe sung it.

    End of discussion.
     
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    Yep. You beat me to it.
     
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    I was drunk the day my Mom got out of prison.:D
     
  6. 4by4bygod

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    Well, the least you could do is post the lyrics for the benefit of those who don't know it.

    Tom
     
  7. TexasA&Mblazer

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    X4....I was gonna post that earlier but I figured someone would post it before I did. :D
     
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    You Never Even Called Me By My Name
    performed by David Allan Coe

    Well it was all that I could do to keep from cryin'
    Sometimes it seemed so useless to remain
    You don't have to call me darlin', darlin
    You never even called me by my name

    And you don't have to call me Waylon Jennings
    And you don't have to call me Charley Pride
    And you don't have to call me Merle Haggard, anymore
    Even though you're on my fightin' side

    And I'll hang around as long as you will let me
    And I never minded standin' in the rain
    You don't have to call me darlin', darlin'
    You never even call me by my name

    Well I've heard my name a few times in your phone book
    And I've seen it on signs where I play
    But the only time I know, I'll hear David Allan Coe
    Is when Jesus has his final Jjudgement day

    And I'll hang around as long as you will let me
    And I never minded standin' in the rain
    You don't have to call me darlin', darlin'
    You never even call me by my name

    -spoken-

    Well a friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that song.
    And he told me it was the perfect country and western song.
    I wrote him back a letter and told him it was NOT the perfect Country and western song,
    "cause he hadn't said anything about Momma, or trains, or trucks, or prison, or gettin' drunk.
    Well he wrot another verse to the song and he sent it to me, and after readin' it I realized that my friend had written the perfect country and western song.
    I felt obliged to include it on this album, last verse goes like this here:

    Well I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison
    And I went to pick her up in the rain
    But before I could get to the statio in my pickup truck
    She got runned over by a damned ol' train

    And I'll hang around as long as you will let me
    And I never minded standin' in the rain
    You don't have to call me darlin', darlin'
    You never even call me
    I wonder why you don't call me
    Why dont you ever call me by my name




    Now there it is, I guess this thread is dead now....Bubba said it, DAC sung it, end of story

    Now go out and buy some David Allan Coe if you don't have some already. He's the most underrated Country singer in HISTORY!

    ...a coal burnin' stove, no natural gas, if that aint country I'll kiss your ass...
     
  9. 4by4bygod

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    Naw.. one thing DAC is not, is underrated.. everyone knows he's the dude. ( and I've got more on vinyl of his that still hasn't been reissued on CD yet)

    And the thread isn't limited to DAC..DogDay gets points for going off the beaten path.

    I thought maybe diesel4me would've added something. I'm looking for stuff that you guys think is cool I don't own already, and maybe some insight as to why you like it.

    Tom
     
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    Hey Matt.. while we're on the subject:

    If That Aint Country - David Allan Coe

    the Old Man Was Covered With Tattoos And Scars
    He Got Some In Prison And Others In Bars
    The Rest He Got Working' On Old Junk Cars
    In The Daytime
    They Looked Like Tombstones In Our Yard
    And I Never Seen Him When He Wasn't Tired And Mean
    He Sold Used Parts To Make Ends Meet
    Covered With Grease From His Head To His Feet
    Cussing' The Sweat And The Texas Heat
    And Mesquites
    And The Neighbors Said We Lived Like Hicks
    But They Brung Their Cars For Pa To Fix Anyhow
    He Was Veteran-proud, Tried And True
    He'd Fought Till His Heart Was Black And Blue
    Didn't Know How He'd Made It Through The Hard Times

    He Bought Our House On The G.i. Bill
    But It Wasn't Worth All He Had To Kill To Get It
    He Drank Pearl In A Can And Jack Daniels Black
    Chewed Tobacco From A Mail Pouch Sack
    Had An Old Dog That Was Trained To Attack
    Sometimes
    He'd Get Drunk And Mean As A Rattlesnake
    And There Wasn't Too Much
    That He Would Take From A Stranger

    There Were Thirteen Kids And A Bunch Of Dogs
    A House Full Of Chickens And A Yard Full Of Hogs
    I Spent The Summertime Cutting' Up Logs For The Winter
    Trying' Like The Devil To Find The Lord
    Working' Like A ****** For My Room And Board
    Coal-burin' Stove, No Natural Gas
    If That Ain't Country, I'll Kiss Your Ass

    If That Ain't Country,
    It'll Hair Lip The Pope
    If That Ain't Country, It's A Damn Good Joke
    I've Seen The Grand Ole Opry,
    And I've Met Johnny Cash
    If That Ain't Country, I'll Kiss Your Ass

    Recitation:
    Mama Sells Eggs At A Grocery Store
    My Oldest Sister Is A First-rate Whore
    Dad Says She Can't Come Home Anymore
    And He Means It
    Ma Just Sits And Keeps Her Silence
    Sister, She Left 'cause Dad Got Violent
    And He Knows It
    Mama She's Old Far Beyond Her Time
    From Chopping Tobacco And I've Seen Her Crying'
    When Blood Started Flowing' From Her Calloused Hand And

    It Hurt Me
    She'd Just Keep Working' Trying' To Help The Old Man
    To The End Of One Row And Back Again Like Always
    She's Been Through Hell Since Junior Went To Jail
    When The Lights Go Out She Ain't Never Failed
    To Get Down On Her Knees And Pray
    Because She Loves Him
    Told All The Neighbors He Was Off In The War
    Fighting' For Freedom,
    He's Good To The Core And She's Proud
    Now Our Place Was A Graveyard For Automobiles
    At The End Of The Porch There Was Four Stacks Of Wheels
    And Tires For Sale For A Dollar Or Two
    Cash

    There Was Fifty Holes In An Old Tin Roof
    Me And My Family We Was Living' Proof
    The People Who Forgot About Poor White Trash
    And If That Ain't Country, I'll Kiss Your Ass
    If That Ain't Country, It'll Hair Lip The Pope
    If That Ain't Country, It's A Damn Good Joke
    I've Seen The Grand Ole Opry,
    And I've Met Johnny Cash
    If That Ain't Country, I'll Kiss Your Ass
    I'm Thinking Tonight Of My Blue Eyes
    Concerning The Great Speckled Bird
    I Didn't Know God Made Honky-tonk Angels
    And Went Back To The Wild Side Of Life

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    Hell, lets just turn this into a DAC thread! It's not exactly a true DAC song, but he did a cover of it, either Jerry Jeff Walker or Ray Wylie Hubbard did the original, either way, its a damn good song too.

    "Up Against The Wall Redneck Mother"
    He was born in Oklahoma,
    His wife's name's Betty Lou Thelma Liz
    And he's not responsible for what he's doing
    Cause his mother made him what he is.

    And it's up against the wall Redneck Mother,
    Mother, who has raised her son so well.
    He's thirty-four and drinking in a honky tonk.
    Just kicking hippies asses and raising hell.

    Sure does like his Falstaff beer,
    Likes to chase it down with that Wild Turkey liquor;
    Drives a fifty-seven GMC pickup truck;
    He's got a gun rack; "Goat ropers need love, too" sticker

    And it's up against the wall Redneck Mother,
    Mother, who has raised her son so well.
    He's thirty-four and drinking in a honky tonk.
    Just kicking hippies asses and raising hell.

    Well,
    M is for the mudflaps you give me for my pickup truck
    O is for the Oil I put on my hair
    T is for T-bird
    H is for Haggard
    E is for eggs, and
    R is for REDNECK.

    Up against the wall Redneck Mother,
    Mother, who has raised her son so well.
    He's thirty-four and drinking in a honky tonk.
    Kicking hippies asses and raising hell.

    He's up against the wall Redneck Mother,
    Mother, who has raised her son so well.
    He's thirty-four and drinking in a honky tonk.
    Just kicking hippies asses and raising hell.

    Just thought I'd contribute instead of bumping for once. ;)
     
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    First things first i have to agree with everyone with David Allen Coe singin the perfect country and western song, but .....


    this is a pretty good one too


    CDB - uneasy rider '88

    Me and my buddy got us a wild hair
    And figured we wanted to go somewhere
    So we loaded up in my ragtop Chevrolet
    We had a little bit of money
    And a whole lot of show
    Adn with Hank Jr. blaring on the radio
    We got us a tank full of gas
    And we was on our way

    We figured we'd go down to New Orleans
    We were barrelling down old 17
    When a man with a blinking red light
    Was on our tail
    He said you were doing 60 in a 45
    But I'm gonna let you go this time
    But if I catch you again
    I'm gonna slap you in the county jail

    We said thank you sir you sure been nice
    And you ain't gonna have to tell us twice
    And we were Southbound and down with the wind
    Blowing in our faces
    We kept on rolling and pretty soon
    The radio was cooking out a Haggard tune
    And we were pulling into Houston
    Checking out all them places

    I was feeling dry and I said I think
    We ought to stop and get ourselves a drink
    And old Jim said yeah 'cause we got time to kill
    We kept on rolling and I seen this spot
    And we pulled into the parking lot
    Of this place called the Cloud Nine Bar and Grill


    We walked through the door
    And the place was jammed
    The lights were low they had a punk rock band
    And some orange haired feller singing about suicide
    I said Jim this ain't our kind of place
    He said well let's just have one round anyway
    So against my better judgement we walked on inside
    Went up to the bar and we sat down
    This feller walked up and said I'll buy this round
    And he sat down on the barstool next to Jim

    He looked like a girl but he talked like a guy
    He had lipstick on and mascara in his eyes
    And everybody in that place looked just about like him
    I said Jim this ain't our kind of bar
    Let's just go on out and get back in the car
    'Cause there's gonna be trouble
    Ain't no sense in taking a chance
    We was getting up getting ready to leave
    When somebody grabbed old Jim by the sleeve
    And this good looking girl was asking my buddy to dance

    I said Jim don't do it there's something missing
    There's fellers dancing and fellers kissing
    There's a feller in high heeled shoes wearing panty hose
    He said partner I just can't turn this down
    You just go over there and have one more round
    And I'll dance with the lady
    And we'll get on down the road

    So he walked away and left me alone
    But this funny looking feller kept coming on
    And he was making me mad with some of the things he said
    Then he put his hand on my knee
    I said if you don't get your paw off me
    I'm gonna locate your nose around
    The other side of your head

    He said I love it when you get that fire in your eye
    I said well partner try this on for size
    And I unloaded on him and he went out like a light
    Everybody in that place must have been his friend
    They all headed for me I said this is the end
    But where I come from we don't give up
    Without a fight

    They were screaming and yelling and scratching and clawing
    I was punching and hitting and kicking and pawing
    I was holding my own 'cause I've been in a scrap or two
    Old Jim come running up out of the blue
    And that gal he was with come running up too
    And proceeded to beat on me with a high heel shoe

    I grabbed her by the hair it came off in my hand
    And that beautiful girl was just a beautiful man
    And old Jim just got sick right there on the floor

    He dropped that dude like a shot from a gun
    Smeared his lipstick made his makeup run
    And me and old Jim started fighting our way to the door

    We lit out of there in that Chevrolet
    I put in on the floor and it stayed that way
    We were going down the highway
    Doing about a hundred and ten
    We were headed for home and we was getting nearer
    Then a red light came on the rear view mirror
    And that same blame cop was pulling us over again

    Now I'm sitting here in this county jail
    I had to call my daddy to go our bail
    But I learned me a lesson
    That I never will forget again
    I've done give up drinking I've give up bars
    And running around the country in souped up cars
    I'm going back where the women are women
    And the men are men
     
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    On the subject of David Allen Coe...

    The Ride
    Now I Lay Me Down To Cheat
    Tennessee Whiskey
    Long Haired Redneck
    If That Ain't Country
    Hank Williams Junior-Junior


    and of course


    You Never Even Called me By My Name



    and a few more that probably shouldn't be posted :D
     
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    Haha true...they probably shouldn't be posted, but a few of them are truly good songs, too bad they can't play 'em on the oldies country stations......
     
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    Hmmmm....perfect huh..??

    I guess David Allen Coe DID write "The Perfect Country Song"..I have no argumemt with the fact its good song..I like it a lot..

    Perfect??...hhmmm,could be..I tend to think the the "perfect" country song has yet to be written..its the only reason I try to listen to "country" radio anymore--so maybe I'll hear it!..not much I've heard on radio is very good lately..not even mediocre..all the GOOD songs are never played on FM..they get shoved in the closet,or only XM or Sirus plays them...most of my favorite artists are actually more "folk" and "Bluegrass" than country,but are listed under "country music" in the stores..go figure!..

    ...I'm dissapointed with 80% or more of what they call "country" now..it "RESEMBLES" country..its not like it used to be,but I guess rock has gone downhill a lot too since the 60's and 70's...Led Zeppelin,Black Sabbath,and Areosmith, VS whoever it is they play now--NO CONTEST!...

    Same goes for country now --Cash,Haggard,Jones,Paycheck,Waylon and Willie..THEY were true country..only comparable artists today are George Straight,Alan Jackson,and a few other "traditionalists" that are singing anything resembling the "old" country music..Though I love many of "todays" country artists and songs,I prefer the older classic country songs..more depth,emotion,and real life scenarios..

    I am listening to "After Midnite" with Blair Garner as I type this..I've heard Tim Mcgraw and Kenny Chesney about 5 times in the last 2 hrs..Rascall Flatts,and Keith Urban..Lonestar..yuk...not my kind of country!..only a few good songs from the Judds,Alabama,and Sara Evans were what I wanted to hear..so much repitition its sickening..and just when you think you found a good artist,they either stop playing them,or they come out with a stupid song,and overplay it to death....

    --like Trace Adkins..I Loved "Arlington","Every Light In The House Is On",etc..but now even he had to go "mainstream" with "One Hot Mamma" and "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"..:surepal: oh brother..now were line dancing again..:1zhelp: --and he "pulled" Arlington off the air,because whiney liberals complained it was "hurtful to the families of the Iraq war"...his best song in my opinion..squashed by a few whinebags!..:mad:

    I refrained from posting in the "Garth Brooks" thread,because though Garth is OK,I'm not a huge fan of his later music..(and Cannamore sounded like he didn't want to hear any "country music" posts!:rolleyes: )--but I like a few of his songs,like "If Tomorrow Never Comes",Friends In Low Places",and "Papa Loved Mama"..to name a few..but I burned out on him,hearing him SO often during the 90's when I really started getting "serious" about country music,and going to Nashville for fan fair,etc..

    Garth actually sat 5 feet away from me at a table eating his lunch at fan fair one year I was there.(95 I think)...he had huge sunglasses on,and a 10 gallon hat pulled down close,so it was rather hard to see who it was for sure..he walked up to the only few empty seats in the arena,about 5 feet from my seat at my table,where the Texas "Chuck Wagon Gang" was serving lunch,and asked me if the seats were taken..

    I knew instantly by the sound of his voice who he was,(heard him on several interviews on TV)-- I said "nope,nobody's sitting there!--he must have seen my grin when he spoke--he whispered "please don't say my name out loud!--
    I just shook my head "yes",and he gave me a thumbs up,and started eating..but a few girls staring at the next table must have heard him-they were talking in whispers,and kept looking over at him..a few minutes later one of them said "Oh my GAWD!!..and shreiked "GARTH" at the top of her lungs!..poor guy never got to eat most of his food,and I didn't mind the flood of lovelies pressing up against me trying to get an autograph from him..:wink1:

    he'd driven all the way from OK,and was not scheduled to be at fan fair at all..he ended up signing autographs for nearly 23 hours,without even going to the bathroom!..thats what I love most about country music..best music lyrically,and really decent people singing it..most of the time,they are willing to mingle with fans,and you'd never know they are superstars and millionaires..just "regular Joe's and Jane's"!..very generous too,always donating time and money to charity...you don't see many rock artists meeting fans very often,if ever..

    Some very fine voices and talent in "country" and Bluegrass music ,both now AND then..many fine looking babes too,and many can actually sing as good as they look too..also many that are riding mostly on sex appeal and good looks,and as many that should be pursuing a pop career..but don't have too,because country radio IS pop mostly now..or soft rock..adult contemparary maybe..but not REALLY country compared to years past..I realize all music changes and evolves,but country is quickly losing its roots and identity..the line should be drawn somewhere..

    Well,now that I bored everone to tears,I guess I have to think of my "perfect" country song..that might take another post..:doah:
     
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    Well..

    I thought of 1000 songs that could be a "perfect" country song..but its very hard to say "this is THE one"...David Allen Coe wrote it..it does perpetuate all the stereotypes about country music in a way..anyone know he wrote "Would You Lay With Me In A Field Of Stone" that Tanya Tucker sang in the 70's,when she was still in her early teens??..got a lot of tounges wagging with that tune..:p:

    There are so many good songs..Holly Dunn's "Daddy's Hands"is high on my list,as is Suzy Bogguss's rendition of "Night Riders Lament"...Merle's "When A Buck Was Still Silver",and "Okie From Muskogee"..All of Cash's tunes..George Jones "He Stopped Loving Her Today"..and I haven't listed ANY of the gospel influenced songs,or the ones about the working man,like Alabama's "40 Hour Week"..or songs about integrity,like Arron Tippin's "You've Got To Stand For Something,Or You'll Fall For Anything"...and "Working Man's P.H.D."--country music has a song with a story to fit every situation,every emotion...

    I'll cheat and list one of my favorite artists songs...might not be perfect,but its close..its about truck driving..working all your life..then retiring and living your dreams....(plus its after 5 am,and I haven't been to bed yet..and this song is the only one I can remember all the lyrics to in my present condition..:crazy:

    "18 Wheels,and a Dozen Roses"
    Kathy Mattea


    "Charlie's got a gold watch--don't seem like a whole lot..
    "As he's driving up and down the interstate"
    "But Charlie's got a good wife"
    And Charlie's got a good life"
    And soon he'll no longer be countin the days"..

    (Chorus)
    "18 Wheels,and a Dozen Roses.."
    "10 more miles,on his 4 day run"
    "A few more songs,on the all night radio"
    "Then he'll be home with the one that he loves"..

    "He'll buy a Winnebago--set out to see America"
    "Do A lot of catchin up,a little at a time"
    "With peices of the old dream"
    "Their Gonna light the old flame"
    "Doing what they please"
    "Leaving every other reason behind"

    "18 Wheels,and a dozen roses"
    10 more miles,on his 4 day run"..
    "A few more songs,on the all night radio"
    "Then he'll spend the rest of his life with the one that he loves"


    Thats only one of hundreds of my idea of the "perfect country song"...got lots of "perfect Bluegrass songs" picks too..mostly by Rhonda Vincent,and Allison Krauss..they are also earthbound angels..:wink1:

    P.S..if any of you guys read this between 8am and noon eastern time,WKLB ,country 99.5 in boston has a great "Sunday Morning Country Oldies" show on then..its streaming online now, on www.wklb.com :D
     
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    Since we're into DAC ( not a bad thing) here's another favorite.

    Young Dallas Cowboy

    Well, I've hiked through the sage brush,
    I ran up some rail
    I slept on the bench in a few county jails
    And they laugh as they knocked all the wind from my sail
    When I was a young Dallas Cowboy

    I've tried hard to tackle the problems at hand
    I've kicked a few habits, and I've marched to the band
    I tried hard to follow the lady of the land
    When I was a young Dallas Cowboy

    I've made a few passes that weren't incomplete
    I stumbled through yards on my way to the street
    Running from beds where I did more than sleep
    When I was a young Dallas Cowboy

    (Talk)

    Well, he tackled the bottle and he fumbled the ball
    And he'd touchdown in alleys along where he'd fall
    Just wait for his son to make up for it all
    When I was a young Dallas Cowboy

    When I was a baby, he broke up the team
    Divorcing my Mama to live with a dream
    He had back in college when he was still green
    And I was a young Dallas Cowboy

    Now the footballs I held did not fit in my hand
    Got me a guitar and I've got me a band
    So don't put me down when I'm taking my stand
    Be proud of this young Dallas Cowboy
    Yeah I'm proud I'm a young Dallas Cowboy
    Be proud of those young Dallas Cowboys
     
  18. Bubba Ray Boudreaux

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    You might want to do some editing on your post...............:wink1:
     
  19. 4by4bygod

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    heheh.. thanks, I got caught up in the moment. :doah:

    Tom
     
  20. hunterguy86

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    It was Ray Wylie Hubbard that did it first but JJW did it also.
     

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