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Picked up a Steering Ram, got Hydraboost - What was the verdict on that?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BorregoK5, May 1, 2003.

  1. BorregoK5

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    Looking for 57" springs in the Junk Yard today and found a 79 Dodge Ram which had rolled, and nobody noticed the Hydraulic Ram steering on the Front Dana44. I picked up the whole setup minus the steering box for $29. The ram has a TRE on one end for the tie rod and bushings on the other end to mount to the axle tube right where the stabalizer is. I checked the seals and the throw and I'm pleased. Now, there have been posts lately on some of hte power deficits with running a ram and hydraboost brakes. I couldn't find the final verdict on that running on a single power steering pump. It would be easy enough to run a second pump dedictated for the hydrabooster but I'd prefer just one. Anyone have any luck yet?
     
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    I don't know about a verdict, but on the military humvees, they run hydro brakes, hydro steering box, and a 9000 mile marker hydro winch all off the same pump we all use! all they do is hook all the items up in series.... It's flow really... If and when I decide to use hydro brakes, I will do the same, only difference is that I will be modifing my pump to increase flow to handle the extra flow! Hope this helps! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Thats along the lines of what I was thinking. Only I'm planning on plumbing a 2wd steering box for the ram, and if I'm not mistaken, thats in parallel and not series. I'm excited about the upgrade but kinda wanted to go hi-steer as well. I'm concerned over busting a knuckle with the ram so I may not and just leave it stock.

    Which reminds me, I still need onboard air, welder and a winch!
     
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    Yeah, the flow is a little on the shy side, depending on the ram diameter. I'm thinking seriously about dual pumps for my 2" ram. Seems like 1.75" doesn't have the problems I do...
     
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    Well I'm still working on mine but it appears that my pump isn't the problem. It's the ABS module in my truck. I'm ripping that out and installing a new proportioning valve and master cylinder this weekend. My steering is great right now with or without brakes on though. Just can't stop because of air in the abs module /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    You may want to install a cooler in the system not only for cooling, but for extra capacity as well. Remember to mount it so you don't capture air bubbles!
     
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    If your talking to me, I already have a cooler /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Hmmm, now thats interesting. This ram I have is quite different than most of the apps I have seen out there. It's plumbed at one end rather than each end so the diameter of the outer tube does not reperesent the ram diameter. The ram tube ID is 1 1/4" with a 7" throw. The plumbing for the ram ran to a module mounted on the draglink at the end of the pitman arm. It senses the rotational location of the pitman arm and transfered fluid to the ram accordingly. This module (as odd as it sounds) looked to be powered directly by the power steering pump, independent of the power steering box. I left that module behind since I'm moving to crossover steering and planned to port my steering box instead. The shole system was very profesional, the ram has a TRE built to it, and it had a clamp mount which used u-bolts and a formed pin which molded perfectly to the housing hole where the axle tube gets welded in. I brought that mount home but it doesn't fit on my D60, I'll make sure someone with a D44 gets it to mount their ram since its so nice. Maybe I'll be alright afterall since the ram needs less volume. I'll post pics as soon as I finish cleaning it up and checking all the seals. I think the cooler for the extra capacity is a good idea too.


    Here are some pics.. looks like this is a factory option on a Ford of some type- it has a Bendix replacement part number.
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-7.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-6.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-2.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-3.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-4.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-5.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-bracket.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-bracket-2.jpg
    http://www.echobit.com/messageboard/uploads/steering-ram/steering-ram-bracket-3.jpg
     

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