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picked up my first revolver

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TorkDSR, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. TorkDSR

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    s&w 66 4" .357

    probly a police turn in.
    im looking for a cheap place to get ammo.
    am i better off online, or at dicks?
    and do i need a license to purchase on line?

    and i'm also looking for some cheap speed loaders.
    any names besides hks and safariland or whatever?
    thanks
     
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    .38 can be had cheap anywhere, like 9mm, buy in bulk online or just get it from the store. .357 is a bit more, especially if you want SD loads

    You just need to be 18/21
     
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    thanks. and i cant really find any info on what all the ammo does...

    do i want big grain or little grain?
    and what different types of jackets and why?

    i probly wont bother to shoot the .357 maybe just keep it loaded with +p, but i cant even see a reason for that. if i do have to unload this thing somwhere other than a range, i dont wanna be blind and deaf for the second shot.

    one more thing.... whats the trigger pull in sa supposed to feel like?
    i read its supposed to be 4ish pounds... i would probly measure mine in ounces. could that have been altered?

    thanks again
     
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    I'm not concrete on all this info but

    Light Grain = Faster, Less Penetration Due To Fragmentation, Possibly More Penetration At Times
    Heavy Grain = Slower, More Energy Deposit, More Penetration


    FMJ = "Ball" ammo, good for target, ok for defense in some applications
    JSP = Hunting ammo, target ammo
    TMJ = For "clean" ranges
    Wadcutter = Lead slug, good for range, good in revolvers for defesne and hunting
    Hardcast = Max Penetration for large game
    JHP = Expands rapidly on impact, dissipates energey in target, leave larger wound channel, doesn't penetrate as much, bleeds out quicker.

    There's also filled HP ammo like Pow'r'ball from Cor Bon that is pretty damn nice, though apparently it has penetration issues

    4 pounds DA on a revolver is pretty damn nice I'd say

    Unless it's ungodly heavy or hair light, don't bother with it, just get used to it

    Make sure SA pull doesn't have play and is in the right poundage and you'll be alright.

    The SA trigger on my Ruger is too light, cause me to double tap inadvertently when I'm not choking up on the pistol
     
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    thanks
     
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    How much did it cost if you dont mind?

    I'd like to get a Ruger GP100 6" Full Underlug
     
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    I had some corrections to make, thanks Eric
     
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    "Grain" is a unit of weight measure used for measuring bullet and powder weight in firearms. More grains=more weight.
    A heavier bullet is slower (all other variables being equal) and causes a little more recoil, but "hits harder" because it carries more mass to the target. A lighter bullet is faster (again with the variables...) and causes less recoil, but doesn't hit as hard due to less mass. As RJ said, lighter bullets tend to penetrate further due to the speed, and heavier bullets tend to penetrate less, due to less speed. ***EDIT: OK, now I'm doubting myself here re: speed??? Gahhh,, it's too late, can't think straight...***
    In a home defense scenario, I personally like a heavy JHP round. Hits hard, expands to create a hydraulic shockwave in the body, digs a big-ass wound channel, and stops before exiting, thereby transferring all it's energy into stopping the scumbag's vitals. No over-penetration to worry about, because the last thing you want is to shoot some scumbag, and your round sails through him and hits one of your own, or your neighbor. If the bullet stays in the scumbag, no one else gets hurt, and you definitely want your self-defense shoot to be as (legally) clean as possible.
     
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    I'm currently getting schooled by a marine, it's embarrasing....... :blush:
     
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    Why is that embarrasing? :confused: BTW, check my edit, you've got me doubting myself...
     
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    I dunno, but Eric is telling my horrible stories and drag race metaphors now

    I kind of just want to say '**** IT, SHOOT HIM 16 TIMES IN THE CHEST AND SHUT UP!"

    Anyway, I think I have a decent compromise on bullet wieght now.
     
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    I have a S&W 66 as well. If it has been shot a lot you might want to have the cone where the chamber lines up to the barrel checked. My groups started to spread out, so my gunsmith tuned it up and it is back to normal. However, mine has a lot of rounds through it.

    As for ammo, check out reloading. Little expensive to get set up, but if you shoot a lot you will save a bunch of money. I am down to about $4.50 per 50 rounds in .38. Not a whole lot more for .357. Plus I put together light loads for teaching and friend's wifes. They love it!
     
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    paid 275 and then some tax. but i got a free brady bill child lock. what a piece of shlt that is. i may as well leave the lock on, and the gun loaded. i can break that lock of faster than i could load it :D

    the gun feels really nice in my hand. i'm happy with my decision
    i'll probly pick up a box of jhp for around the house.
    and stick to wad cutters for the range.

    i'll get my conceal and carry license as soon as i settle in to my new school routine.
    any place to get the serial number looked up to see how old it is?

    i was mixing up the grain thing, thought it was a measure of powder, not lead, thats why all the numbers were confusing, so less grain, lighter bullet, more muzzle velocity, less energy transfer, all makes sense now.
    and no one has an opinion on the speedloaders?
     
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    Here is my ruger speed-six .357

    I shoot .38 for range every now and then I shoot .357 to keep my feel for it. .357 out of a stubby is almost a chore to shoot a box at the range.

    I since have aquired a decent hip holster that I pack it around in now.
     
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    went to the range today, put 200 rounds through it. all they had was +p

    forgot a screwdriver so i couldnt adjust the sites... whatever.

    i can safely say i can hit a piece of target paper at 20 yds.
    but as to where; i'm not a psychic :cool1:
     
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    Grain is also used for measuring powder. It's apparently the standard unit of measurement for ammunition components; i.e. a 125-grain JHP bullet over 6.5 grains of xx powder (it's a totally hypothetical load, just for conversation's sake).

    Oh, BTW... In case you haven't experienced it yet, the whole "Which is better, a light & fast bullet or a heavy & slow bullet?" argument is something along the lines of the "Which is better, Ford or Chevy?" argument. Everyone's got their own theories, and the "facts" to back their theories, and the arguments can get pretty heated...
     
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    Eric and I agreed last night


    "As long as you have a good reliable gun in a decent caliber, hitting your target is the only thing that REALLY matters"
     
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    Well, that's the first rule of a gunfight... Bring a gun.
    Second rule? Hit your target.
     
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    Glaser Safety Slugs are loaded in my wife's M10 .38spec. I carry mixed mags of Silvertips and Fed +P+ trunc cones in my 1911A1.
     
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    Congrats on the new blaster!



    Gun Safety Rules

    (Just because I can't resist, and it never hurts to read them again.)

    1. Every gun is always loaded.
    2. Never point your weapon at anything unless you want to destroy it.
    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target and you are ready to shoot.
    4. Know what is behind your target.
     

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