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POLL - Do you have a auto or manual in your trail rig?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by KRAZIE87K5, Nov 12, 2003.

  1. KRAZIE87K5

    KRAZIE87K5 1/2 ton status

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    <FORM METHOD=POST ACTION="http://coloradok5.com/forums/dopoll.php"><INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME="pollname" VALUE="1068661880KRAZIE87K5">


    Auto or Manual? What are you running in your rig?
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="1" />400/203
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="2" />400/205
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="3" />400/208
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="4" />700/241
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="5" />700/208
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="6" />350/205
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="7" />350/203
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="8" />465/205
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="9" />4500/241 or other xfers
    <INPUT TYPE=Submit NAME=Submit VALUE="Submit vote" class="buttons"></form>

    I'm currently running a 465/205... but I am considering going to a 400/203/205 doubler setup. I have had a 400/205 in the past, and it had overheating problems despite the B&amp;M 70266 aux cooler. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Over heating is the SOLE reason that I went to the 465/205 - and well... the granny gear isnt bad either.

    Now I've got the urge to go back. YES, I've caught some criticism from my fellow manual tranny buds (and I'm sure I'll hear more soon) but I think I'd really like to give the 400/205 another try. The doubler seems very attractive for many reasons, mostly because that was the ONLY thing my truck could have done better at last weekend in Attica... CRAWL.

    Tellico is just around the corner in April... I want to be ready.

    So, sock it to me. What do I do?

    -Dan
     
  2. laketex

    laketex 3/4 ton status

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    Manual. don't go to a pos automatic unless you forgot how to drive with 3 feet. Remember, a doubler works behind anything, so it's a non-issue. Why not double your 465/205? Wouldn't it be great to be overheating on the rocks again like Neil (sorry neil) was at Fulton? I loved riding down hills on the brakes when I had an automatic too. Gotta love the lack of control. I have to say that if you go auto, I'd laugh the hardest at you, and maybe even throw rocks too. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  3. KRAZIE87K5

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    Wouldn't it be great to be overheating on the rocks again like Neil (sorry neil)

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    The only reason he was getting hot was because his tranny was running low on fluid thanks to a leaky seal somewhere.
     
  4. TxK5Blazer

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    I am running a built 700 with a 208 just having problems keeping the 700 cool on the trail installing b&amp;m tranny cooler this weekend so let see if that helps....jason
     
  5. KRAZIE87K5

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    You wanna talk about cool? My clutch sure was thinkin it was a little hot a few times on some obstacles in Attica... the damn thing got to smokin a few times...
     
  6. BadDog

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    I love my auto, but didn't respond to the pole. My left leg is bad for one thing, but I would prefer the auto anyway for the finesse it allows. I can and have driven sticks over many trucks and many years, but the auto is my preference just for lower stress. My Th400/305 is now in my son's K5, I have a Th350/203/205 doubler in my truggy now with a Th400/203/205 in the works...
     
  7. KRAZIE87K5

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    How much do you see spending on a doubler setup for the 400/205 Russ?
     
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    I'm running the 350/205 but hope to get a doubler in one of these days... /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  9. laketex

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    [ QUOTE ]
    You wanna talk about cool? My clutch sure was thinkin it was a little hot a few times on some obstacles in Attica... the damn thing got to smokin a few times...

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    /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gifMight be in the driver /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
  10. BadDog

    BadDog SOL Staff Member Super Moderator Author

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    How much do you see spending on a doubler setup for the 400/205 Russ?

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    Hmmm, not sure what you mean. I have no intentions of doubling the Th400/205. That's in my son's daily driver/weekend warrior. For the Th350/203/205 I got a $150 Th350, free 203, $200 for 2 205s (one a Ford for the input, output, and guts, the other a GM for the case). Then there was the adapter on top of that. So, not too bad. For the Th400/203/205 in the works I’ll just use the Th400/203 I recently acquired and bolt on the existing adapter with hybrid 205 behind the new Th400/203 range box…
     
  11. KRAZIE87K5

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    Gotcha, just going off this:

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    now with a Th400/203/205 in the works...


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    I'll have the 400/205 again soon I think... then I need to find a suitable 203 and an adapter. I'm thinking another $1000 before the whole thing is done... /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
     
  12. dyeager535

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    The only reason he was getting hot was because his tranny was running low on fluid thanks to a leaky seal somewhere.

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    Since it was an automatic, you only have about 30 seals to worry about, compared to about 5 on the 465. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

    (yes I'm counting all the internal *RUBBER* pieces in the automatic trannies)
     
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    have a 465/208 going to a 400/203 and hopefully soon 400/203/205---loved the standard---well---we'll see about the auto.
     
  14. KRAZIE87K5

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    Was was the seal between the trans and the 203 IIRC... nothing internal... but I get your drift! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
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    I dont understand why your tranny would ever overheat when wheeling. I live in las vegas and wheel year round even when its 120 degrees out and have never had any problems with my 400/205 combo. maybe desert racers but not a crawler. unless its a gearing problem/too high. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
  16. KRAZIE87K5

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    What got you going back to the auto if you LOVED the standard so much? I like mine too... but there is something about the auto that is appealing that I just can't place my finger on... /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

    -Dan
     
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    I run a 350/203/205 and love it.The only way I could ever see myself running a manual is if my crawl ratio was 176:1 like Crwln73 He never stalls out,just chugs right along no matter what/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  18. jekbrown

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    wait... where the heck is 700-205 on the list?!?!? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

    j
     
  19. dyeager535

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    The only way I could ever see myself running a manual is if my crawl ratio was 176:1 like Crwln73 He never stalls out,just chugs right along no matter what

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    I'd suspect that with a better fuel delivery system, any of the "shortcomings" of the manual trans setup would be overcome.

    I wonder if a lot of the "problems" people have come from how their clutch is set up and how the engine is set up. I can't imagine stalling my truck out in almost any case (although it can happen) but with a setup like my dads (poor idle, crappy clutch setup) you end up stalling every time you need some finesse.
     
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    I wonder if a lot of the "problems" people have come from how their clutch is set up and how the engine is set up. I can't imagine stalling my truck out in almost any case

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    Wheeling in Moab with the 6.2 and 465 I never once felt I needed lower gearing...and I certainly never did the 3 foot dance anywhere. It never stalled and never quit pulling, I felt I had excellent control. I'll never go to an auto over my 465, and I don't feel the need for a doubler...at least with the diesel. Maybe with a gasser it'd be more of an issue. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif 60:1 seems to be enough with the 6.2.

    Rene
     

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