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POLL - Rear lift options - what are you running?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by BurbinOR, Dec 16, 2002.

  1. BurbinOR

    BurbinOR 3/4 ton status

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    Am totally /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif about what I want to use in the rear of the Burb for lift...........rides excellent now on stock 3/4 ton springs, don't want to lose that. Flex is not an issue, ride quality is the priority with enough lift to fit 33's or 35's. Won't go shackle flip because of the potential towing issue.

    So please vote on what you have now -

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    What you're running in the rear?
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="1" />Lift Springs
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="2" />Blocks with stock springs
    <input type="radio" name="option" value="3" />Shackle Flip
    <INPUT TYPE=Submit NAME=Submit VALUE="Submit vote" class="buttons"></form>

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  2. ben427

    ben427 1/2 ton status

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    I have the ord shackle flip on my /forums/images/graemlins/truck.gif and im really happy with it. And ORD is commited to service too.
     
  3. Shaggy

    Shaggy 3/4 ton status

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    <font color="green"> If you're concerned with towing, how about getting some 6" springs and removing a leaf or two to bring it down to 4" of lift? Leave the overload for towing, should ride nice and soft but still work well for towing. Or put some air shocks in it and just pump em up when you're towing. </font color>
     
  4. zakk

    zakk 1/2 ton status

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    i'm running the 6" Springer Suspension w/o a track bar. No way in hell i'd tow with it. I am not very expereinced in towing to begin with, but its really flexy so i don't have the stomach for it.

    I have heard that Marv tows a bit with his, and Dr. Watson came onto the PBB and said that the ORD flip could be towed with, might want to talk to him about that.
     
  5. 89GMCSuburban

    89GMCSuburban 1/2 ton status

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    Use blocks, but buy some traction bars if you really need them.
     
  6. mudhog

    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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  7. chevyfumes

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    I've got some blocks, I'll trade ya for summthin'.... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
     
  8. GMCLegacy

    GMCLegacy 1/2 ton status

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    shackle flip and 4" blocks with stock leaf springs, it equates to a very soft flexy ride.
     
  9. Seventy4Blazer

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    or2play has it on his burban. i rode in it a few times. with no shocks it rides nice. im sure once he puts shocks on it it will ride LOTS better.
    be the second burban to run it man... i got it on my blazer, but have yet to try it out.
    Grant
     
  10. thatK30guy

    thatK30guy 1 ton status Premium Member

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    Frank, I'm in the same boat as you are, deciding which springs to go with for my '89 Sub.

    I'm also planning around either 33's or 35's with the 35's on the higher priority list.

    Rear springs I'm thinking of 4" with zero-rates and also 4" on the front. Wanna have that rear up slightly higher in case of saggy butt.
    But if towing will sag it even more, I would go with 6" rear springs instead and still leave the 4" front springs there.

    I got this Sub mainly for towing. I still want to use it for a daily driver and for grocery-getting, too. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Rear blocks are out of the question. Too much axle wrap even when towing. I'm not planning to spend gobs of dough on this truck either, so traction bars are out, too.
    I can't use the stock springs on the truck now since one side is sagging about an inch or so lower than the other side. So either 4" or 6" springs are replacing them.
     
  11. COCHEV

    COCHEV 1/2 ton status

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    my vote for you is lift springs as well. my buddy had 4" lift springs in rear of his 87 blazer and it rode great. won't have axle wrap issues of blocks or shackle flips. do the springs /forums/images/graemlins/burb.gif
     
  12. jekbrown

    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    stock springs, 1" ORD zero rates, 4" shack flip, revolvers, rockjunkies slightly taller than normal spring perches. When I put all that poop on, I took thesprings apart, degreased, put in new bushings, painted em all purdy, and slapped some UHMW-PE between each leaf to keep em from binding.

    j
     
  13. reddog64

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    I dontthink you can get axle wrap with a shackle flip, but I could be wrong... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    Go with the shackle flip. The shackle flip is only one (small) part in the problem with towing with a lift. If you keep the stock springs and don't flip the overload I don't think you will even notice the difference in ride. Suposidally the shackle flip imparts some digressive quality to the rate of the springs...but the overload adds in a huge progressive rate to the spring! Your 3/4 ton springs are stiff to begin with and it won't make that much of a difference if it does at all.

    The warning about towing that Stephan made was a bit more to cover his but. The problem that Grim had (that started the hole dabate) was a combination of meny different things (too soft of shocks, flipped overload, too much tung weight IIRC). IMO if you did the shackle flip and used some rs9000 shocks set to stiff when you tow you could not get a much better all around (including towing) setup.

    BTW: If you wanted to you could mount the flip bracket so that it would still be progressive. It all has to do with shackle angle....I'd have to look up which way you would want to angle it if you are intrested.
     
  15. Burt4x4

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    I am running 5 1/2" SuperLift springpacks. Very smooth packs, i think I counted 8 leafs being used with teflon inserts. The Freeway ride is very nice and around town and even twisty roads my rig handels great. Oh and LifeTime warrenty too. I am very satisfied with them.
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  16. or2play

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    Well its safe to say I will not be towing with my suburban. Mabey with shocks and the track bar I'll change my mind. I know Marv said he has towed a few times with his blazer, but with as soft as the springer setup is (plus the extra weight of the suburban) I'm not planing on towing a thing.
     
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    I have ORD 4" Shackle flip, and Tuff Country 3" springs, Total of 7" of lift for the rear, and 6.5" of lift up front. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Shackle flip.

    Other than the problems associated with a higher CG I feel that my shackle flip is awesome. And towing the motorcycles really has not presented any problems.

    What are you planning on towing?
     
  19. Grim-Reaper

    Grim-Reaper 3/4 ton status Author

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    Home brew flip.
    86 springs.
    2 extra leafs from original 75 pack
    1 inch Zero rate.
    6 inches of lift as measured against wifes stock 79 from top of axle to bottom of frame.
     
  20. Stephen

    Stephen 1/2 ton status Moderator Vendor

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    You can probably figure out my vote. Same thing again, if the truck is set up for towing, the flip isn't going to matter. If it's set up for trail use only, it's probably going to tow like crap. If you're towing really serious trailers, you should probably look at not lifting the truck at all, and/or load leveling hitches, adjustable shocks, and a whole bunch of other stuff.
     

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