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Pro's and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Bullet, Jul 12, 2003.

  1. Bullet

    Bullet 1/2 ton status

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    Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    I'm looking into reducing the weight of the Jimmy for offroad use. Going to take the top off and store it, take out rear carpet and ins. along witht eh rear seat. Thats an easy 400+lbs weight loss right?

    Now, if I removed the electric-motored tailgate and replaced it with a Gatornet, I'd lose about another 120lbs or so and possibly get a hair better MPG.

    By losing the tailgate, will I lose any structural integrity of the rear quater panels? I realize I can do a truck tailgate to keep the strength,(if needed) but I dont want to go through the hassle of the prep&paint to get it to match the Jimmy's current paintjob. I'd rather have a DOM tube cut and bolted on to where the tailgate latches(if needed)

    So, will I have any problems of running the Gatornet and going offroad?

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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    i would at least have some sort of tube like you mentioned that would reinforce the rear some..but it couldnt hurt, and that top probably weighs 400lbs or close by itself...
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    You might want to do the tube. After my last adventure, My rear is somewhat tweaked.

    Let me rephrase that to say, After my last Moab trip, My tailgate does not line up correctly now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    NO WAY! 400lbs? i believe it is 188lbs. i can put it on with two people on my truck which has 10" of lift and 39s- 400lbs would be impossible. . . i believe it weighs 188lbs. with sliding glass, which i have.
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    thats it? the top on my 4runner weighs a good 250 or so..i figured the big boy truck topper would be heavier...oh well
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    the fulltops are about 350....
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    well, 1990s don't have full tops, now do they /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    Damn i felt pretty damn strong until you said that it weighed 188... I almost took the top off comepletey by myself once i had it lifted up when i was in the truck but i had no idea how i was gonna get down.. (jumping out the back didnt seem like a good idea with a Blazer top on my back lol)
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    Jr has a tendency to exaggerate a tad, but I believe he is talking about the combined weight of the top and the rear tailgate.

    One other thing, if you want better gas mileage, get your foot off the floor!!! When you drive, we can pass anything but a gas station.
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

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    and that top probably weighs 400lbs or close by itself...

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    this is what i was responding to
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    so is 188 an official number? has anyone weighed one with sliders to get that number?
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    How 'bout without slider. I want to know too. I've taken my top off by myself a couple of times, and even put on by myself (big pain in the arse). My bed sides now show signs of something not going right, but then again my paint job aint so great so I don't really care.

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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    Here are the weights that I remember

    Top with sliders: 188#
    Tailgate with glass/motor: 116#
    Rear seat: 60#
    Rear carpet/padding: 50#
    Side panels 6# ?

    Total 420#

    I would run the bar:

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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    Meanwhile back on the ranch...

    I'll tell y'all what, I know some guys that work at Feed stores, so I'll weigh the Jimmy as is, then take the top off and weigh it again to get the offical weight. Then I'll take the rear seat and insulation out, weigh it, then fianlly take off the tailgate and wiegh it again.

    BTW, the Jimmy weighs 5750lbs and thats with everything you see below on my sig + 3/4 tank o' gas

    Oh, and Derf, who was racing the Honda yesterday at the red light??? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    Thats exactly what I want to do Steve, IIRC didn't Rockstomper fab that bar up for you? Do you have any pics of that bar and how it attaches/bolts to the latch?
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    :jumps for joy clapping and yelling like a 10 year old girl: I was right for once!! oh my goodness! yee-hee! :/jumps for joy clapping and yelling like a 10 year old girl:

    how about the doors- i took those off by myself the other day and that last bolt SUCKED
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    So you have the problem of your tailgate not lining up too? I had a tailgate and a rear window when I tweaked mine up a bit.

    Now what if you didn't care about the body of your rig? Would you still need to reinforce it?
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    i would still just through a 2x4 in there and screw it in somehow, just to prevent major buckling. . . but idk it it would help any. . .
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

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    i would still just through a 2x4 in there and screw it in somehow, just to prevent major buckling. . . but idk it it would help any. . .

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    Yeah, if you want to look like some Deliverance backwater hillbilly /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
     
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    Re: Pro\'s and Cons of running without the tailgate, and running a Gatornet?

    I plan on running a truck tailgate for the winter, so I would still want that to line up right. The bar might be handy to mount stuff to maybe. I guess if your not worried about the body, Go for it. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     

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