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Question about BDS springs and the teflon pads

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by thatK30guy, Aug 1, 2001.

  1. thatK30guy

    thatK30guy 1 ton status Premium Member

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    Check out this pic of Shawns BDS springs on the front. They use teflon pads on each end of the leaves.
    <a target="_blank" href=http://www.off-road.com/chevy/reviews/bds/bdsfront.jpg>http://www.off-road.com/chevy/reviews/bds/bdsfront.jpg</a>


    I have 90blzr's (Mychal) springs here in my garage waiting for him and they do NOT have the round teflon pads and only on the ends of the 2nd and 3rd leaves.

    Shawns springs have 6 leaves and Mychals has 5 leaves.

    What does everyone else have and what the heck is up with this? I'm trying to find out whats going on before I order my springs. I like what Shawn has.

    <font color=blue>Daddy told me while learning to pee......"if you shake it more than twice, then you are playing with it!!!"</font color=blue>
     
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    WAit a minute Wes Let me look,,,I think all my T-pads Fell out!!?!!! Hmm, What's up with that?

    " Wider IS Better!!!"<a target="_blank" href=http://www.community.webshots.com/user/wheelininco>www.community.webshots.com/user/wheelininco</a>
     
  3. solowookie

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    mine has square teflon pads at the end of all the leaf's that end short. the pads are complete on both front and rear springs, but the do not run the entire length of the spring.

    [​IMG] <font color=blue> Jeff </font color=blue> [​IMG]
     
  4. thatK30guy

    thatK30guy 1 ton status Premium Member

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    Yeah, but did you see Shawns leafs? There is a teflon pad on the end of EACH leaf. The springs here in my garage only have 2 leaves with the teflon. That makes 4 pads per spring. Shawn has 10 pads per spring. His are also round pads.

    <font color=blue>Daddy told me while learning to pee......"if you shake it more than twice, then you are playing with it!!!"</font color=blue>
     
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    denver75k5 1/2 ton status

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    Thats actually pretty sweet!, I wonder about the spring rate on those???

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  6. solowookie

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    well all I can tell ya is the more these things break in the happier I am with these! they ride awesome, but now my rear is sagging more then the front. I even had a D44 up front and a 14B out back which is suppose to make the back an in higher.

    I was looking at my springs, and I'm wondering if these springs are turned around if they wouldn't sit different. I keep meaning to call BDS and ask them about this.

    [​IMG] <font color=blue> Jeff </font color=blue> [​IMG]
     
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    Well my BDS springs are 6 leaf and they are like shawn's pretty much. The pads are squares, but that is probably just a change or update BDS has done since Shawn bought his.

    -Mikey
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  8. 90blzr

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    Ok, I just talked to BDS. It was a change in the teflon pads since Shawns. They said that the spring place asked why they wanted pads in the lower leafs because those leafs dont move enough to require or make a difference with the pads. The longer leafs up top move alot more and the teflon pad will make a noticeable difference there. He said there are no problems that have been reported with the "new style" pads. He said they wont fall out or go anywhere.
    Now for solo's question. I thought I would ask while I had them on the phone. They said if the rear spring was put in "backwards" it would ride the same, but would actally make it lower. Due to the fact the height for the lift is on the rear side of the leaf. There is more distance from "center pin" to the rear eye, than fron center pin to front eye. Like on 6" springs they are 26 1/2" from front eye to the center pin and 28" from the center pin to rear eye. 1 1/2 " difference. On mine there is a 1" diff. (8"spring). I forgot you have a 4" until after I hung up, sorry about that Solo. So I asked since a shackle flip moves the axle forward, if you put in the rear spring in backwards, it would move the axle back towards the normal location. That is when the extra lengh on the rear half of the spring came in and we figured it would actually lower it.
    Wes. I also asked why Shawns fronts have an extra leaf than mine, and they said his are 6" and mine are 8". With the 6 " they have more thinner leafs to retain the lift. With the extra 2" on mine and to retain good flexablitly and ride quaity they removed a leaf and made them longer to retain the height and without the extra leaf they are still able to ride and flex good. This is why they stop and make the 8" their last size spring. They feel any thing bigger, they would have difficulty making it ride and flex like they lower size springs
     
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    How much do the bds 8" front springs run.....?
     
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    I got my 4 springs, two 8" front and two 4" rear for $550 shipped to my door.......well actually to Wes' door&lt;img src="http://coloradok5.com/forums/images/icons/wink.gif"&gt;&lt;img src="http://coloradok5.com/forums/images/icons/laugh.gif"&gt;

    If you want the exact price for just the fronts let me know and I'll look for the invoice, cause I dont remember off the top of my head. But I will tell you it was the cheapest I've found and I've called ALOT of places, and I got Wes a good price on his too.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by 90blzr on 08/06/01 08:01 PM.</FONT></P>
     
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    <blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

    Now for solo's question. I thought I would ask while I had them on the phone. They said if the rear spring was put in "backwards" it would ride the same, but would actally make it lower. Due to the fact the height for the lift is on the rear side of the leaf. There is more distance from "center pin" to the rear eye, than fron center pin to front eye. Like on 6" springs they are 26 1/2" from front eye to the center pin and 28" from the center pin to rear eye. 1 1/2 " difference. On mine there is a 1" diff. (8"spring). I forgot you have a 4" until after I hung up, sorry about that Solo. So I asked since a shackle flip moves the axle forward, if you put in the rear spring in backwards, it would move the axle back towards the normal location. That is when the extra lengh on the rear half of the spring came in and we figured it would actually lower it.

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    hey thanks for asking on that. I'm going to have to look at the way the springs were put in the rear cuz I'm assuming that is why (and capt. should do this too) some of us with BDS lifts are seeing the lifts lower in the rear

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    What is BDS's website? Anyone know?
    Might consider them for my 76's lift.

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    There website is <a target="_blank" href=http://www.bds-suspension.com>www.bds-suspension.com</a> They dont actually sell them direct or give out prices but you can get your part numbers off the site and see what all they have. I've talked to both Glen and Rene (alot) and they are both very easy to talk to and are always willing to answer any questions.
     
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    I have never done rear springs, but how can you put them in backwards? Up front the springs have different size bolts, so you can't put those in backwards (but I tried!!!).

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     

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