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RAII Boycott

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by bada55_tx_k5, Sep 10, 2003.

  1. bada55_tx_k5

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    http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121612

    Quite a few of us out here in TX are fed up with the RAII's refusal to evolve and embrace the new technology that has been available to them since 96 and have decided to boycott anything RAII. Please check out the link and let us know what you think
     
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    ?? who is RAII?
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121612

    Quite a few of us out here in TX are fed up with the RAII's refusal to evolve and embrace the new technology that has been available to them since 96 and have decided to boycott anything RAII. Please check out the link and let us know what you think

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    It's the RIAA. And they are idiots.
     
  4. Goober

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    ?? who is RAII?

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    Actually, it's the RIAA.


    The Recording Industry Association of America .

    They are a "Trade Group" that represents recording artists.


    For some reason, judges are allowing them to monitor peoples internet activity and hack into their computers to check if they have any "pirated" music files.

    They just settled out of court ($2000 fine) with a 12 year old who downloaded some music on her mom's computer.


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    Let the file sharing begin!!!!!

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  5. newyorkin

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    This makes me angry. The fact that someone is monitoring someone else's internet activity without any user foreknowledge burns my toast. I think they should be sending out cease and desists, then lawsuits if the C&D is violated. But then, I guess with all the investigation and lawyers they need, it wouldn't be cost effective, would it... If someone were researching how to make a bomb out of Liquid Plumber, and researching school blueprints the next day, I'd understand a COURT-ORDERED desire to montior thier internet traffic/activity. But watching what someone downloads to pull back financial profit pisses me off. I'm surprised the ACLU isn't screaming bloody murder because some gay still in the closet that's been downloading gay porn might be exposed, simply as collateral damage to a song or two he downloaded...

    Years of exorbitant concert ticket prices, exorbitant music prices. Many other sources of income they've abused as well.
    That industry is finally feeling the backlash of extreme greed and power abuse, and they're biting back hard. Hopefully, the privacy issue will become huge and those muthertruckers will get somehow countersued enough to hose them.
    RIAA is a wasteful, greedy group that's been suckering people out of money for as long as they've existed.

    On one hand, I agree that thier industry is being unjustly taken advantage of with p2p stuff like Kazaa. A kid with thousands of songs from artists that get zero compensation for this individual's usage and redistribution isn't quite right. On the other hand, I don't really see why they can get away with charging you $23 for a cd that has 1 or 2 good songs, over $200 for some concerts (ever try to buy bruce springsteen or rolling stones tix?). Profits are so ridiculously over-proportioned THEY should be sued.

    Make no mistake my friends, the RIAA is responsible for hosing you out of some fine entertainment (how many radio stations are left streaming on the internet? Not many, the RIAA had a hissy and wanted comp for every song broadcast on the net, in addition to the comp for the song being simultaneously played on the airwaves).

    Personally, i think no matter what they do, they'll never stamp out piracy until they make music easier to buy. Right now, i look at a cd price tag and think "1 or 2 good songs that I'll pull off the disc and put on a mix disc anyway, or gas in the truck?" If a cd were $5 (which they can very well afford to do), I'd look at one and think, "Cool, I'll BUY this right now".

    Oh, and how is it they can charge $8 for a cd of 8-12 songs, but $750 to $150,000 for each song pirated?
     
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    how is it they can charge $8 for a cd of 8-12 songs, but $750 to $150,000 for each song pirated?


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    You already answered that question:

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    RIAA is a wasteful, greedy group that's been suckering people out of money for as long as they've existed.


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    RIAA = Really Incompetent Asshat Attorneys
     
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    Last I checked they are a business and are getting cheated out of their money.
     
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    Last I checked they are a business and are getting cheated out of their money.

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    Where, exactly, did you check? You had better check again. They are not a business, they are a trade group whose membership is comprised of recording companies. Kind of like a Union for record companies.


    They claim that their members are being "cheated" out of revenues from record (CD) sales because people share mp3 files on the Internet. They may or may not have a valid argument and it looks like it will be up to the courts to decide that. My opinion is that their sales are falling because nobody wants to buy the garbage their members release. I see it as the same type of silly argument that the Motion Picture Association of America made when the VCR was introduced. They claimed that it was only a tool to be used to "steal" copy written materials from their members, therefore "cheating" them out of their royalties. That was a silly argument back in the 70's and it's even sillier now.


    Where I take issue with them is that while they claim to "protect intellectual property rights worldwide and the First Amendment rights of artists" they believe that they can ignore the rights of the Average Joe by monitoring his Internet habits to see if maybe, possibly, there might be an outside chance that he listens to music that he downloaded that one of their members didn't get revenue from.

    And it doesn't seem to matter if the user has a legal copy of the music or not. They are actually looking at the computer file and fingerprinting it to find out if it is a pirated copy (that is very simple to do) and, if they find out it is a pirated copy, they will go after the user even if they have purchased a copy of the song on a CD.


    I really don't care whether or not they are suffering loss from on-line file sharing. For the sake of avoiding an argument over that, let's assume that the do have a valid case. Does that give them the right to watch peoples Internet activity (same thing as a wiretap) and search their private property (Hard drive)?


    I think the best response to these folks is to educate each other on how to protect your computer from prying eyes and, if you are exchanging "sensitive" files, learn how to create encrypted connections so nobody can watch what you are doing.




    What does everyone else think?


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    <input type="radio" name="option" value="2" />They are a bunch of sleazeballs that need to be stopped.

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