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Rare Item Found - 14 Bolt Full Floater 6 Lug!!! - Pics

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Mudzer, Dec 13, 2001.

  1. Mudzer

    Mudzer 1/2 ton status Author

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    Rare item! - 14 Bolt Full Floater with 6 lug pattern, complete with disk brakes and detroit locker. Not sure if this is all factory equipment or not. It was found under a '76 B-210 Datsun. Ok, just joking. [​IMG]

    <font color=blue>Blazer72</font color=blue> got tired of breaking his 12 bolt so he stepped up to a 1 ton rearend. He machined down the hubs and axle flanges and had a 6 bolt pattern drilled into the hub. He said it was very simple. He gets the trick mod of the month award! Here are the <a target="_blank" href=http://www.mudzer.rockcrawler.com>www.mudzer.rockcrawler.com</font color=blue>
     
  2. DesertDueler

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    Thats cool. BTW Donovan did this a couple months ago, so I dont think its the mod of the month.

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  3. Mudzer

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    Ok, I would give Ken the Humanitarian of the month award because he posted his pics without hesitation and didnt charge y'all for the info [​IMG].

    Mudzer 1978/91 K5
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  4. Emmettology 101

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    Whatever happened to the guy with the Tan K5 that bought a 14FF from a 4wpw store that was made into a 6 lugger? He paid around $1100-$1400 for it......

    Mike

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  5. Chris Demartini

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    <font color=blue>I saw pictures of it a few months ago, it had an engine fire and burned. Someone said they saw a toasted K5 tub at a junkyard with a CK5 sticker on it
     
  6. CaptCrunch

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    That's pretty slick looking. Would love to keep the 6 lug wheels I have with a 14B. He should do a write up on it.

    -Mikey
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  7. Emmettology 101

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    DiD he leave the 14FF 6 lugger in it and is it still at the j-yard? :)

    That is sad though..

    Mike

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  8. thatK30guy

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    How did he get the lug studs to seat squarely on the back part of the bearing hub? Did he have to machine some areas on the back?


    I'm not picking my nose...I'm just pointing at my brain!! [​IMG]

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  9. Executioner

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    Will the wheel stay attacted to the hub in the rough stuff ?
    Looks like the lug studs may breakout from the rim, not much material to hold on too !
    Let's see how some 38's + do at say 30 degs. of camber !
     
  10. ken

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    This is not new technology. My axle-narrowin buddy has been doing it to 14 bolts and prior to that the old (pre '73) 3/4 &amp; 1 ton GM Corporate drop out full floating rear ends for over 20 years!!! He can make them 5 on 5.5" for Jeeps and Fords, or 6 on 5.5" for GM 4x4s. No biggie.

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  11. blazer72

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    The test will be this weekend in Disney OK. They do brun off real nice now though.

    72 Blazer 400TPI NV4500 NP203/205, 6 bolt FF14
    01 Suburban 8100 2500 4X4
     
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    if I was to do that I would thread the stud holes and use high grade bolts like aftermarket axles use
    wouldnt need a flat spot
     
  13. thatK30guy

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    Mike, you mean use the screw-in type studs? Not the press-in type, right?
    I can see the screw-in type studs being stronger than the press-in's.


    I'm not picking my nose...I'm just pointing at my brain!! [​IMG]

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  14. Donovan

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    That is very funny. I didn't want to reveal how I did it because I used the stock brakes for the 14 bolt. I still believe that I am the only one that has done this. I have made other things that was stolen, like the Wristed Radius arm for the Ford early Broncos. Now all the broncos run them. Ken PM me a couple weeks ago on how to do it and I told him. I see Ken didn't do it my way and that is okay to. If anyone cares the next project I have started is to build a complete Transfercase. I got the gears this week and I pick up the Aluminum today. It should be done in a couple month. It will be a 3 speed with a super low in it. Sorry to make you mad Mudzer but I still can't tell you how I did it.

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    Donovan, think of it this way:

    You can tell everybody how and what to do to run the 14FF converted to 6 lugs.

    Wanna know why you can?

    Because Bob Chandler (Bigfoot 4x4) would suggest you to!! [​IMG]

    Bigfoot Bob could have played his cards close to his vest, but no, he went ahead and told and helped anybody who wanted to build a monster truck. [​IMG]

    Just think if Bob did NOT tell anybody his secrets, etc. we would not have monster trucks today!!! [​IMG]

    So, if you are ready to "come out" and expose the secrets, why not sell plans or instructions to anybody who wants to do it?


    I'm not picking my nose...I'm just pointing at my brain!! [​IMG]

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  16. Donovan

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    I tried that with the Wristed Raduis arms and it just don't work because people are always tring to make a buck and they will stab you in the back. [​IMG]

    Donovan
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  17. blazer72

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    Gee Yes you did tell me how you did it and no I did not do it that way. The 14 bolt uses webs on the back side of the hub to spaces the drum back about an inch. I left them there and turnd down the hub front and back so the wheel and the 88 chevy IFS rotor fit, after the rotor was opened up in the center to 4.170. I then had the 6 9/16 holes miled in were they fell. Pressed the studs in to the rotor and fited the rotor to the back of the hub. The flange on the hub is .500 thick, the flange on the rotor is .500 thick. The studes are 2.75 long. I looked at useing some type of spacer, but it was unneeded work/cost. This may not work! But it should, has with what little testing I have done.
    The rear caliper is the same as the front one and I used a sprint car weld on bracket, the cost of said brackit was 5.95 buy the way. It may not work but it like the brakes on my blazer when it being towed( they come on uses vacum and some valveing controled with the brake controler in the Burban)my work from PFM!

    72 Blazer 400TPI NV4500 NP203/205, 6 bolt FF14
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  18. thatK30guy

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    Did you get those 'sprint car brackets' from A&amp;A Manufacturing?
    If so, I got some of them just to compare them to the brackets the guys on this site make.

    Those A&amp;A brackets suck dog turd big time!!! [​IMG]
    They are so thin and how the heck is someone supposed to get them to fit the 14FF spindle?!?!


    I'm not picking my nose...I'm just pointing at my brain!! [​IMG]

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  19. Donovan

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    It was no problem Ken I said that you didn't use my way of doing it and that is fine. The only reason I did it my way is to use the stock 14 bolt brakes. Your way will work to and it is a lot cheaper to do and less time consuming. Great job.

    Donovan
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  20. blazer72

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    The brackets are the same or better than the TSM one's I was useing.

    72 Blazer 400TPI NV4500 NP203/205, 6 bolt FF14
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