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Removing 14bFF locknut? (Not "Do I need special socket"!)

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by guido666, Nov 10, 2005.

  1. guido666

    guido666 1/2 ton status

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    Whoever had this axle before me must have used air/hydraulic tools to put it on. I CANNOT budge these locknuts. :mad: I even made a special tool, like a 4-way lug wrench, but with the locknut socket on it. Still can't budge it. I called around and a shop wants about $50-60 to do it (basically 1 hour of labor). Hell, a knockoff air impact wrench only costs that much and I would have something to show for it! But I don't have the money. Do you think an impact hammer drill might do the trick? Worth a shot?
     
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    find someone to help you...try putting some pressure on it with that 4 way wrench you said you made, then have them hit the end fairly hard with a mini sledge. Often ive found that that sudden bit of extra pressure really helps when gradual steady pressure wont.
     
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    Sounds like a good suggestion. I'll give it a try. Any other suggestions? (I'll stock up on them and try them all when I work on it on Friday.) :D
     
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    Thanks, but yes, I checked. I checked the Chevy service manuals too.
     
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    So you did take the little square pin out of its hole?
     
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    No, I didn't see one. From Pirate's site, it looked like that was only on that special model.

    How do you get it out?
     
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    Mine did not have a key in that slot. It was a jam nut, the star washer, and another nut. I replaced mine with Dana 60 front nuts with the pin style lock washer.

    Ira
     
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    This is how mine appears to be also.
     
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    Here is a stupid question. Did you make sure that there was not more than 1 tab for the lock washer bent over?. Also who ever put them on may have just thought the torque spec was the same as a 10 bolt. The lock nut on a 10 bolt front goes to 185 ft/lbs.

    Ira
     
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    There were more then one tab, but I removed them all.
     
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    Did you hit it with any PB Blaster? That is the best stuff around next to good ol Gubment issue Wintergreen.

    Ira
     
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    Yes, I PB Blaster'ed it. I didn't think it would help though, it's tight, not rusted or anything.
     
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    I'd get the correct socket and a long 1/2" breaker bar and that thing should come right off. I think that the outer locknut has to be torqued 50 lb.ft. Anything over 100 lb.ft. would be hard to get off with a 4-way tool. You know how hard it CAN be to get lugs off and those usually get to around 100 lb.ft....

    At least on the semi trucks if it's hard to get off, I put that socket on my 3/4" ratchet and knock the end of it with the 4lb. mini-sledge and it comes right off.
     
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    The way [my] socket fits on that aduster nut, you really can't apply torque like that (it was the first thing I tried). Since it is only touching in those six places, it just wants to tip and come off. I even tried putting a ratchet strap on it to hold pressure on the socket, against the nut. But it couldn't hold enough to keep it from cocking and just popping off.
     
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    Have you tried heating it yet?
     
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    Wasn't sure if that was possible without hurting something. That whole spindle/hub cavity is packed with grease and oozing lube.
     
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    Sure you don't need one of them fancy exploded axles? :D
     
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    I was able to remove the nut with a hammer and a screwdriver. Just seat the tip in one of the grooves, and tap the end of the screwdriver to loosen the nut. Worked for mine and one at the junkyard. I could never get enough torque with the socket without it popping out of the grooves. I do lose patience quickly though.
     
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    I'll try that again, but it was in there so deep I couldn't really get at it well, and I didn't want to ruin the nut and NEVER get it off. :crazy:
     

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