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Revolver Shackles - Something to read if you are considering them

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Corey-88K5, Dec 29, 2000.

  1. Corey-88K5

    Corey-88K5 1/2 ton status

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    First of all, here is my Disclaimer. This is not my opnion, or my thoughts. This is information via a daily news letter I get. The individuals E-mails will be deleated by me. These people are only giving out their E-mails to specific people, not everybody. Here is the information. Besure to read everything before you come up with your own assumption.

    Corey
    88K5Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 09:43:48 -0800
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    Subject: Revolver shackles
    To: Offroad@offroadlist.com

    I don't know for certain about the earlier CJ's like yours, but in later
    years the wider spacing of the rear springs really reduces articulation, so
    I think the rear would benefit more from these shackles. Also, on the rear
    they are less likely to adversely effect handling.

    Joe Sand




    Scott Atha <@yahoo.com>@offroadlist.com on 12/27/2000 06:28:27 PM

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    I just got a pair of Revolver Shackles for Christmas. I'm still waiting
    for my bushing kit so they'll fit on my 65 CJ.

    I am planning to install them on the rear because it's really easy on
    the rear. I don't think I'll even need to extend my brake lines.

    Is there any reason to install them on the front vs. rear? Is there a
    benefit? I'm thinking anything which keeps the tires on the ground is
    good. BTW my rear axle is locked.

    I thought I'd try to help keep the list from getting so quiet during the
    holidays. :-)

    Scott


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    Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:22:25 -0700
    From: "Thomas Barkume" <@cedarcity.net>
    Subject: Revolver Shackles
    To: <Offroad@offroadlist.com>

    I will probably get a lot of heat for this post so I've donned my fireproof
    suit. I installed revolvers both front and rear a year ago and now won't
    have them near my vehicle.

    If you are into hard wheeling they are not for you. Revolvers allow the body
    or sprung weight to shift outward from the angle of travel on steep ups and
    downs. This movement may be just enough to allow the vehicle to endo on an
    obstacle.

    The person that developed the revolvers used them last year on the ARCA
    events. As I watched, I saw several similarily equipped vehicle climb an
    obstacle that he couldn't do. The only difference were the revolvers. Later
    he endo'd his jeep.

    This fall, I removed my fronts, but was lazy and didn't do the rears (had to
    reweld the frame perch), so went wheeling instead. Coming down a steep
    drop-off, I felt the body start to go over. Spectators said the wheels were
    on the rock, the body just moved away. The result was an endo that cost me
    $2,000 to repair. Needless to say, the rears are not on it anymore.

    My two cents.

    Hav'nFun

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    Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 12:09:45 -0800
    From: @appliedbiosystems.com
    Subject: Revolver Shackles
    To: Offroad@offroadlist.com

    Interesting...I've never heard this complaint before, but it's something
    I've always wondered about concerning "missing link" style shackles,
    something that's been around for awhile. These things mainly seemed to pop
    up on Samurais, vehicles that endo routinely anyway so it would be hard to
    blame it on the shackles! ;)

    The problem is that the whole axle can "drop away" from the body so if you
    reach the point where you are counting on the weight of the axle to hold
    you down you are in for a surprise!

    Since what you're REALLY going for when you install extending shackles is
    articulation, the only time you would really want one to extend is when the
    opposite wheel is stuffed into the wheel well, so a possible solution to
    this problem would be the installation of a limit traveling strap attached
    to the center of the axle near the diff. If this strap is adjusted to
    prevent both shackles from extending when the body is jacked off the ground
    then things should behave a bit more "normal". It wouldn't be quite the
    same as "normal" springs since you would not be allowing the springs to
    arch in reverse...but I'm not sure this would matter. Full articulation
    should be maintained with this settup.

    Fact is, I've been thinking about these problems for a number of
    years...I've had several variations of extending shackles on the drawing
    boards for years but have never put enough effort into creating a final
    product to market...can't find a "perfect" solution to their limitations.

    Joe Sand




    "Thomas Barkume" <@cedarcity.net>@offroadlist.com on 12/28/2000
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    Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:40:44 -0700
    From: "Brett Davis" @enviropax.com>
    Subject: Revolver Shackles
    To: Offroad@offroadlist.com

    I'll be removing my rear missing link shackles since they contribute to a bit of
    wheel hop and I still have gads of travel.



    Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 13:38:35 -0800
    From:@ appliedbiosystems.com
    Subject: Revolver Shackles
    To: Offroad@offroadlist.com

    Well, if any of these revolver shackles being removed will fit an 83 CJ7,
    let me know...I might take them off your hands. I don't know if I'd like
    them but I'd sure like to test them!

    Joe Sand




    "Brett Davis" <@enviropax.com>@offroadlist.com on 12/28/2000 12:40:44
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    I'll be removing my rear missing link shackles since they contribute to a
    bit of
    wheel hop and I still have gads of travel.

    Thomas Barkume wrote:

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  2. Eric78K5

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    Corey,
    Thanks for the post. I posted a question about these days ago cause I was thinking about them for my 78K5. I was wondering about their performance on the trail, and now you've given me something else to think about. Thanks for the info.

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