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revolver shackles

Discussion in 'OffRoad Design' started by UNCLE CRACKER, Feb 16, 2002.

  1. UNCLE CRACKER

    UNCLE CRACKER 1/2 ton status

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    doy you know how the revolver shackles work on a full size truck. i was interested in puting some on my rig but i have heard good and bad things about them. what do you think?
     
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    I just ordered a set for my truck. What kind of negatives have you heard about them?? My truck will strictly be a trail vehicle and of course driving to and from the house so I shouldn't have too much of a problem.
     
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    I would say it depends on how and where you wheel your rig. On mine I would CRUSH a set of revolvers and they are NO help at Tellico, seen several sets in action and I personally dont want any part of them.

    For others they work great.

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  4. Stephen

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    Problems with the revolvers usually have to do with axlewrap. Basically my take on it is: if you introduce enough degrees of freedom into a leaf spring suspension it will flex great. Every degree of freedom you introduce makes them drive worse. At a certain point you might as well just link the rear up to get the control and just use the springs to hold the truck up.
    I've personally had adequate flex out of a good set of leaves and have seen little need for the extra movement in the shackle.

    If you want to try them, keep in mind you're going to need axle wrap control for sure.

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  5. jekbrown

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    like trac bars or...?

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  6. Stephen

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    Some kind of traction bars, either a single ladder bar or a pair of bars under the axle would work best.

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    jekbrown I am CK5 Premium Member GMOTM Winner Author

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    it seems like every time I see a set of trac bars, they are hanging down kinda low just waiting to catch on a big rock or something...does anyone make less obtrusive ones? are trac bars the kinda thing that any fab guy could make, or do they really require some pretty serious engineering?

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    I would like to know this also.

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  9. 55Willy

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    JCWhitney has a trac bar set up that mounts on top of the spring plates and to the front spring hanger. i think a solid bar in that fashion would limit flex, but maybe try a kicker shock..same set up but uses a shock instead of a bar.



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    What do you mean, Where did I get it??...I <font color=blue>BUILT</font color=blue> the damn thing!!
     
  10. Stephen

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    There's a reason why they're down there, that's the best place for them. You're trying to create a 4 link in the rear using the leaf spring as the upper links and the most effective place for the other link is a long ways away from the leaf. so the best place for them is under the axle tube. You can run the bars on top of the ubolt plate but they have to be a good ways from the spring to be most effective and it can be hard to do that in the space required.

    If you want to use the single ladder bar it's a little less complicated but not much. You still need to match the spring geometry but you have a little leeway because of putting a shackle on the end of the ladder bar. You also have to be aware of the torque effects on the vehicle when you're climbing, it may not be what you want in some cases.

    A single torque arm on the top of the diff generally doesn't work too well because it's too close to the leaves to work right.

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