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Rockstomper Nerfs or ToyBox sliders?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by fortcollinsram, Dec 25, 2001.

  1. fortcollinsram

    fortcollinsram 1/2 ton status

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    Which would you go with? THESE rocksliders from ToyBox offroad...
    I kinda like the rocksliders a little bit more (plus they are a bit cheaper...But I am willing to entertain any personal opinions before i purchase...thanks gang...

    Chris

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    I like the Rocksliders better. I think they have the best way for mounting and look like real quality.

    My two cents...

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    I don't know about the ones from Rockstomper so I can't comment. Based on their other stuff, I'm sure they are great. However, I have seen the Toybox versions and those things are rock solid. If I were looking, that is the way I would go.

    Russ

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    I'd go with the ToyBox also !

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    cool beans...that is most likely what I'll get...[​IMG] when I do, I will certainly lwt y'all know how the install went and how they perform...

    Chris

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    I think either would be good times. I am gonna beef my rockers like the guy on off-road.com did, basically just cutting to original rockers off, and then welding in some box steel in its place. If you do it right, they will be hella beefy, cheap, and you actually GAIN clearance (cause u cut off about 3" of rocker, and the box steel is commonly 2" tall). I will, of course, post pics!

    J


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    Check out Grimmy's pic's...he did the same as Depdog did.

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    Well What I did is a little unusal because my floor system is not factory. My truck was a total rust bucket and due to lack of replacement parts I made new floors. I wheel with Dep and have seen Deps rockers take a hell of a beating. I really think it's a good way to go especialy if you have rocker rot. I have done the same set up to a Jeep Cherokee and even on a unibody truck like that it works well.
    One thing Dep and I have found is that they need to stick out more than we originaly had. Both dep and I have caved in doors as a result. Dep has already added a rail onto the side of his to get them out about an additional 4 inches. I'm going to be doing the same soon. I took some major body damage and a guy with a set of sliders that stood out on a 72 and he was able to get the slider on the rock and pivot around on it. I wasted a whole rear 1/4.
    Mine are 4x4. that sounds huge but the rocker is about 3 inches tall. I have lost maybe 1.5 inches under the rocker. 3x3 is about right for the set up. Then add a rail to get the width. I would say 3x 6 would be good but that's a odd size and will not be cheap. The 4x4 set me back $75 for 20ft. That was enough to make my rockers and bumpers. I have about a 12 inch long peice left.
    Both the Potent Rodent (Shawn Spickler for Off-Road) and poject UAV are shown on the Toybox site wearing the rock sliders. Shawn has a write up on them at Off-Road and Steve has a write up here. I know Steve has complained of some wrinkling of the rear 1/4 when they flex. However they do seem to be the best bolt ons I have seen. What I would change is a set of arms on the back tied into the second body suport rail to help with rotational torq. that would take some of the stress off the rocker.
    I like the rib that bolts to the pinch weld on the rock stompers. If it has some torq arms they should be a good set up also. The load would be distributed over a wider area than the 2 single mounting points that the toy box units have. I haven't seen the full mounting system hard to comment further on them. It does comment bolted to the frame. I would have to see how it's bolted to the frame on a K5. Bolting to the frame on a toyota is not as problem matic because the frame is to the sides of the vehicle more than a K5 so they the body tends to move more with the frame. Just really need to se how they mounted off the frame in a K5.
    They both have good points. I would say that both those systems are the best I have seen yet.
    The sytems that go to the frame only are worthless. The frame has enough flex that those will get slammed into the body first time they are hit. Pesonally I would stay away from any solid frame mounts unless your willing to go to the trouble to install a full cage tied into the frame to make the frame rigid. There is a LOT ot frame movement in directions different than the body is going. If it's to be mounted to the frame it needs to have bushings to alow for movement. It still needs a solid mounting system off the rockers. You got to allow for that movement or your going to be putting stess on the body and frame that was not normaly there. On my set up I have a set of rubber bumpers so that if I get side loading it will transfer the force to the frame. There is a about a 3/4 inch clean spot around those bumpers from the movement that the body has.

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    I've got the Toybox Sliders on mine, I love them! They are very stout and fit very well...they don't move a centimeter when I step on them! I just got them on, so haven't tested it on rocks yet, but will this weekend! I have however, seen plenty of abuse to these things, as the guy who came up with these (Mike - blazen91) wheels with us all the time and has bashed them good with awesome results!
     
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    awesome input grim.

    I am prolly gonna do a rocker replacement on my rig. I dunno if I want them to stick out way far. Maybe I'll just install them ala off-road.com for now, and then later, when I have lots of fabbing buddies and stuff, I'll put some tube steel on the outside (giving a similar look to the toybox ones) to protect the body/doors better. Of course, by the time I get really hardcore into wheeling, I wont run it with doors anyway. ;)

    J


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    <blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr>

    I would say 3x 6 would be good but that's a odd size and will not be cheap

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    Just to clear something up...3x4, 3x5, 3x6 are all common tubing sizes. We have tons of each size at work just sitting in the steel rack [​IMG] Maybe it's just not easily found from a retail end of things...

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    I did the chop the rockers version of running box tubing welded into the body. This is exactly what Randyellisdesign.com does and the boxtube mounts right about the same place that the body mounts are. I also had some tube that gives me a little more door protection (similar to toybox offroad) welded on to this box. It is super stout. I have used my jack under these. I have pivoted on boulders on these. Super cheap super easy to build. And you don't have nerfbars hanging under the body...you actually gain some clearance.

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    Any pics of your sliders and half doors?

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    I hope to have pics of my baby on the net soon. My sister has a digital camera. Is it pretty easy?

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    whoo hoo i just ordered the toy box sliders! [​IMG]

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    Is 2x6" fairly common? I want mine to stick out a little ways to pro the body...but want them up high too...gimme that extra 1" of clearance!!! =p

    Also, how thick should the steel be for these?

    Jason


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    Don't know about how common 2x6 is but I've seen nice pieces with 1/4" wall in scrap piles. Here is a link on the article mentioned.
    <a target="_blank" href=http://www.off-road.com/chevy/tech/knocker/>http://www.off-road.com/chevy/tech/knocker/</a>

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    2x6 is also a common tubing size. For sliders I wouldn't hesitiate to use .250 wall tubing, although .188 would probably suffice.

    FWIW my bumpers are made from a very uncommon tubing size. 2x8.5" [​IMG] It was part of a specially ordered batch and was left over. I got a screaming deal on a length of the stuff and made my front and rear bumpers out of it.

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