Ok... seeing as how I don't have any front seatbelts, I want a good roll bar. I want one that the two front 5-point harnesses and the two rear shoulder belts can tie into. I wanted the individual 5 pnt. harness which means that I need a cross bar behind the 2 front seats which would hinder the enterance of rear passengers... I guess what I'm asking is how would go about building this thing... any design ideas? Have been stuck (once) as of 8/12/00 "(2H) Where's all the mud?.(4H)...(4L)..(4H)... oh crap"