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Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by bigbluesuburban, Nov 8, 2006.
Just heard it on the news...
Hmmm... I am not sure what I think of this.
Wow. Just an hour ago they were saying no way.
Yep - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id//15622266/
I don't blame him. Get out while the getting's good.
I'm cracking up... The local ultra-super-liberal guy here is walking around telling everyone what a huge victory for the democrats and they're already getting things done.
Yup, cause come the first of the year, the government is gonna make LA freeways at rush hour look fast.......................
Is declaring victory and looking for a soapbox "getting things done"?
Let them have their fun, it's their day.
Notice how there's no Republicans out there whining and crying and declaring fraud and throwing mud.
Just let it pass, they will show thier true colors in very short order, I'm sure.
He's implying that fear of a democratic congress already influenced Bush to get rid of Rummy...
I worry a little... Democrats held NY easily. We lost our really good Governor to a term limit, and unfortunately now have a super-liberal in that seat. The guy who did nothing for 10 years, then needed to start getting his name out, so opened meritless and fruitless investigations against large corporation that operate here. The man was unknown until he started breaking corporate balls all over the place, and today he's a governor.
I wonder if Bush got rid of him or if he just said F-it.
I have a feeling he said f-it. But I could be wrong.
He probably said F-it.
I doubt Bush woke up this morning and decided something this big because the democrats won last night. My co worker is a little on the idiot side...
By watching the speech, I think Bush had an idea he was going to do this before the election, but didn't want it known before. He even said that, actually. He spoke to his replacement on Sunday and to rummy about getting out yesterday. Sounds like he was ready before the election.
Good point on the no bitching about election fraud...I was thinking that exact same thing.
Bummer. IMO Rummy was the most capable man in the Sec Def job during my lifetime. Old generals ready to fight the last war tended to have a problem with Rummy... but I have read enough from people who dealt with Rummy to know that he was the right man for the job. Hopefully the new guy isn't a Les Aspen wanna be... because our grunts lives depend on it.
I watched the presidents press conference. IMO, I just watched the beginning of a 'lame-duck' president. I think he asked Rumfield to resign. The pinkos have been after his head for 2 years. I think Bush thinks that will quiet them . I think Bush is done as President. He is no Reagan. He'll give the pinkos what they want (Rumfield) .
Over the past week with Army/Navy Times calling for him to resign you had to wonder. Politically it was the perfect time to do it. The election is over and there are plenty of lame ducks in congress that at least claim to be conservatives. Now is the time to get the guy you (Bush) want in before January when the new leadership takes over. I wouldn't be surprised if a judge or two gets pushed through as well.
If Bush would have fired his ass three months ago, we might still have control of the House and/or Senate. I like Rummy, but his timing on this sucks ass.
Same here. I just got done reading Tommy Franks' book not too long ago and he really didn't have a bad thing to say about Rumsfield. I just worry about people in general. If the type of people I like working with happen to be in charge of the country, I'm sure there would be a whole lot of the world that would hate us, but at least things would get done, there would be ass kickings meted out and we would be a happy place to be.
Every gets so freaking Kumbaya about crap these days...................
I hate it when the politicians on our side gives the libs whatever they want.. it's never enough.. I just heard than John Bolton, our UN ambassador is the next guy to go..
I wonder if this is the price bush has to pay in order to not have impeachment proceedings started against him come january?
You would think that W would've learned from what happened to his dad not to bargain with, trust, or even give the frickin' time of day to a democrat..
all of this " I'm a uniter, not a divider" crap is for the birds.. if congressional dems would have been treated like the enemies of the state they are, the base would have stayed motivated, and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Has anyone read Cobra 2, it was a great book about the military at all levels. If you read the book you will see what he did wrong. Mind you I don't think he was to blame all by himself. But he shorted the ground commanders and violated the nine principles of war. I do think he was right about transformation as far as Combat Brigades. But technology can not replace boots on the ground. Especially during a occupation.
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