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Sas??

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by hunterguy86, Feb 4, 2006.

  1. hunterguy86

    hunterguy86 1/2 ton status

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    Ok so I got this F-250. yes its a ford! sorry guys. I'm lookin for info. I want to do an SAS on this truck in the future. Its a 93 F-250 2wd. 7.3 turbo diesel w/ a 5 speed standard. I dont want to get rid of the truck as I have a lot of memories in it. I was thinkin of putting a D50 (hard to find I'm told) or a D60 upfront. I dont think a D44 will hold up. I would use a divorced NP205 since I like the tranny I got. For suspenstion I would use leaf springs for simplicity. I want to build a reliable DD/towrig/work truck for my K5. This truck needs to still be able to haul horses/cattle/tools. I would want to run a 33 inch tire or so as it will be a DD.

    My questions are these:

    Can this be done?

    What about steering?

    How about the enigine crossmember?

    Do I have enough wheelbase to have good driveline angles w/ the divorced tcase? My truck is a single cab long wheel base.

    What year trucks would be good to look at for axles?


    If yall have info, pics or websites I could like at post up. Thanks yall and please dont flame to much bein that shes a ford, but I love this truck and she will always stay in the fleet.

    Dustin
     
  2. sled_dog

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    one nice thing ford did, their frames are the same. Look for a D60 out of an F350 from anywhere from I think 1989 until 1998. Newer one would work but the wheel pattern is different, so unless you got the rear two you'd be screwed up. Just find a 4x4 F350 or even F250 in the yard and pull all the mounts and the crossmember(easy work with a torch, heck get the mounts from the one with the axle in it). My buddy just got all the stuff. It bolts right up(maybe a few holes to be drilled) and you are converted to 4x4. Then just figure out the tcase issue.
     
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    hummmm,

    would the same thing apply if it was a F-150/ full size bronco? because i was considering this swap/......

    LUKE
     
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    have another friend that did that, yep it works on those too.
     
  5. hunterguy86

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    Hey Sled you wouldnt happen to have any pics of that truck would ya? I would like to the the spring hangers, shackles, and the steering.

    I'm wondering if D44 would hold up cause the D60 is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    The only thing that really gets me is the steering. I guess I just need to look at a 4wd truck and then go from there.
     
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    I think the d44 would hold up just fine. The factory 88-97 f250 4x4 has the ttb front axle which used d44 parts.

    I wouldn't spend the extra cash for a d60 if you're only gunna run 33's.

    On the other hand, I'n not sure what year model had a strait axle d44 that would fit. The 89-97(8) 250's all had the ttb, f350's had the d60. You might be able to find a 80's f250 with a d44 strait axle.
     
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    Ok, I did some more research. The 4WOR July 05 issue has the front axle facts.

    The 86 1/2 -97 f-350's have the d60. The spring pad spacing is 36".
    (chevy is 31.5 and dodge is 32.5)

    It doesn't say there is a D44 with that same spring pad width.

    78-79 F250's have d44, but the spring pad spacing is 32".

    Another thing to consider is are you going to use a divorced case with a drivers side or passenger side drop?

    The dana 50 you referenced came in dodges I believe and they were pass. side diff.

    I hope this helps.
     
  8. hack500

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    iirc, the Dana50 was used in fords - actually they're the only ones I've ever heard of using one- it's like a TTB that takes the same locking hubs as an internalhubbed D60.it seems to me they were used most commonly in F250's.
     
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    From what I've read the Ford Dana 50 is TTB so thats a no go.

    I found a divorced NP205 at the yard that is driver drop i think. The whole truck is there. Im gonna go saturday and look. I dont remember the year model of the truck or if its a F250 or F350. This could be a shot at a D60!!!
    Anyways if anybody else has any tips or places to search I would aprriciate it. Thanks for everything so far!

    Another question. will an alignment shop do an alinement on a truck that has A SAS done to it?
     
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    Yes, they will allign your front end. Doesn't matter what its on.

    I was going to buy a 88-89 dodge with a cummins, it had a dana 50 in it:thinking:
     

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