Dismiss Notice

Welcome To CK5!

Registering is free and easy! Hope to see you on the forums soon.

Score a FREE t-shirt and membership sticker when you sign up for a Premium Membership and choose the recurring plan.

short bed 3/4 ton and towing

Discussion in 'Tow & Trailer' started by supersize75k5, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. supersize75k5

    supersize75k5 OrganDonorRacing.com

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    8,832
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    gilbert az
    I have my 72, it is a 3/4 ton 2wd with a 454 and t-400 and I am making it a short bed.."dont ask why"


    Anyways, if I keep the spring rate the same, as well as the general set up, should or can I tow my buggy once it is done?

    I have been told yes by many, but I want to hear it from you guys. I will be happy as long as it tows better that a lifted blazer.

    any input or comments are welcome /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif

    -thanks, shawn
     
  2. rjfguitar

    rjfguitar 3/4 ton status GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2002
    Posts:
    9,097
    Likes Received:
    144
    Location:
    california
    Should pull fine. I have hauled pickups on my trailer with my 10" lifted K5 with boggers and haven't had a problem. The 72 probably would tow better than any K5.
     
  3. kennyw

    kennyw N9PHW Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Posts:
    13,224
    Likes Received:
    94
    Location:
    Stevens Pass Highway, WA
    I'd say it will be ok for pulling a 16-18' trailer as long as it is loaded properly. Longer trailers or poorly distributed weight will affect shorter wheelbases faster than longer wheelbases.
     
  4. cybrfire

    cybrfire 1 ton status Vendor GMOTM Winner

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2002
    Posts:
    15,140
    Likes Received:
    565
    Location:
    Iowa
    Have a similar question so I'm sticking it in this thread. My DD is a 85 3/4 ton 4wd. I was considering using it for towing my bigger truck. I'm probably gona end up building a trailer that my truck will straddle the axles so the trailer itself will carry the bulk of the weight. I was also thinking of making the trailer a gooseneck to get some more stability out of the entire setup. I'm not a towing guru so am I missing something?
     
  5. therobzilla

    therobzilla 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    May 15, 2001
    Posts:
    1,307
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Gilbert, AZ
    I'm going to burst some bubbles here, sorry... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

    You will have your hands full trying to tow a K5 buggy/truggy, period! Short wheel base non-extended cab trucks are going to tow like A$$ and I do mean like A$$. There just is not enought wheel base to pull a heavy rig steadly. I will tow it, but it's going to be very unsafe and very ugly.

    I have towed with my K10 4x4 1972 truck, only one time, and I had a Toyota on the trailer on the back of my truck, and I almost went for a ride on it's own. Too hard to control.

    I am not the towing police, but I would not recomend this setup to anyone.

    And Shawn, I am not picking on you this time! /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif

    Rob
     
  6. supersize75k5

    supersize75k5 OrganDonorRacing.com

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    8,832
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    gilbert az
    /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif



    the reason I asked was to hear what was needed..I can always get rid of the 86 to get a long bed /forums/images/graemlins/pimp1.gif
     
  7. 84_Chevy_K10

    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

    Joined:
    May 30, 2001
    Posts:
    17,669
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    IL, USA
    Get a crew cab. My long bed truck pulls alright, but the longer, the better!
     
  8. supersize75k5

    supersize75k5 OrganDonorRacing.com

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    8,832
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    gilbert az
    cant...I want to daily drive what I tow with...a crew cab would hang past the drive way...other wise I pay for storage on it

    they might consider a crew cab as two spaces /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
  9. az-k5

    az-k5 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2003
    Posts:
    2,774
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Phoenix AZ
    You "have" your shortbed while towing, Just get this [​IMG] and tow the buggy and the short bed at the same time.

    For those wondering, it is only 9K on ebay with a buy it now of 11K.
     
  10. 1970mustang

    1970mustang Newbie

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2004
    Posts:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't know if this will help but I've done a lot of towing with two trailers one is a 18' car trailer and the other is a 19' coverted travel trailer frame made into a atv trailer that hauls 4 700 pound atv's. I've used my 92 F-150 ext.cab short bed to tow both and it tows them great as long as they are properly loaded. I have also use a 87 F-250 reg cab long bed and it will tow both with a more secure feeling than the F-150. I believe that is becuse of the bigger brakes and stiffer springs. I have also towed the car trailer loaded with a 76 K20 with a 83 F-150 with 6" lift and 35's. We didn't have the trailer properly loaded and at 65 mph the trailer swayed so bad it sent us across two lanes of highway and almost into the median. We almost learned the hard way you need 60% of your weight forward of the trailer axles. I also towed the car trailer with a 04 F350 Crew Cab Dual Wheel Diesel. It was pure heaven. You could pull the trailer 80mph and forget it's back there. Just so all the tow vehicles aren't Fords. Before I took apart my 85 K10 Long Bed I used it a couple of times to pull the atv trailer. It pulled it a little better that my F-150. But it had stiffer springs than my ford did. Just remember to properly load your trailer.
     
  11. K30CJ

    K30CJ 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    May 16, 2003
    Posts:
    429
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    IN
    I used to have an '84 K10 short stepside that I converted to 3/4 ton and lifted 4". I pulled my 4K lb. Jeep on a car hauler trailer. Towed quite well actually. Buy my crew cab and towing will be one less worry on your mind.... /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
  12. kennyw

    kennyw N9PHW Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Posts:
    13,224
    Likes Received:
    94
    Location:
    Stevens Pass Highway, WA
    [ QUOTE ]
    I will be happy as long as it tows better that a lifted blazer.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    A 2wd 3/4 ton short bed will be better than a lifted blazer for towing any day /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif It will never be the greatest thing in the world compared to a crewcab dually though.

    Have you thought about making an extended cab short bed out of the truck and keeping the wheelbase the same?
     
  13. supersize75k5

    supersize75k5 OrganDonorRacing.com

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2004
    Posts:
    8,832
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    gilbert az
    [ QUOTE ]
    [ QUOTE ]
    I will be happy as long as it tows better that a lifted blazer.

    [/ QUOTE ]

    A 2wd 3/4 ton short bed will be better than a lifted blazer for towing any day /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif It will never be the greatest thing in the world compared to a crewcab dually though.

    Have you thought about making an extended cab short bed out of the truck and keeping the wheelbase the same?

    [/ QUOTE ]


    I like projects but I would shoot my self in the foot on that one /forums/images/graemlins/screwy.gif
     
  14. kennyw

    kennyw N9PHW Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2002
    Posts:
    13,224
    Likes Received:
    94
    Location:
    Stevens Pass Highway, WA
    Well there are coach conversion companies that can do all the hard parts for you /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
  15. kyser_soze

    kyser_soze 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2004
    Posts:
    3,180
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    KC Missouri
    I have a short bed 98 4wd and tow my jimmy constantly. Keep the spring rate and spent your money on a set of Air lift bags, air them up when you want to tow, keep the ride comfortable when your not towing. Very easy project. I spent extra on the onboard compressor and guages for convenience. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
  16. rich

    rich 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2000
    Posts:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    central NC
    [ QUOTE ]
    I have a short bed 98 4wd and tow my jimmy constantly. Keep the spring rate and spent your money on a set of Air lift bags, air them up when you want to tow, keep the ride comfortable when your not towing. Very easy project. I spent extra on the onboard compressor and guages for convenience. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Do the Air Lift bags affect your rear tire clearance? I want some for my 1990 Burb, but I am afraid my rear tires will rub (33x12.50 on stock rims).

    Thanks!
    Richard
     
  17. kyser_soze

    kyser_soze 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2004
    Posts:
    3,180
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    KC Missouri
    When you air up the bags it actually lifts up the entire truck bed giving clearance between the tires and the fenders. But without a load the rear will act like a big spring affecting drivability and stiffen the ride up substantially, but with a load the truck drives like a caddilac, and thats not an overstatement. /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif
     
  18. 84_Chevy_K10

    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

    Joined:
    May 30, 2001
    Posts:
    17,669
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    IL, USA
    If you are towing your Jimmy with a shortbed 1/2 ton, you are dangerously overloaded.
     
  19. rich

    rich 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2000
    Posts:
    279
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    central NC
    [ QUOTE ]
    When you air up the bags it actually lifts up the entire truck bed giving clearance between the tires and the fenders. But without a load the rear will act like a big spring affecting drivability and stiffen the ride up substantially, but with a load the truck drives like a caddilac, and thats not an overstatement. /forums/images/graemlins/k5.gif

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Sorry I wasn't clear about what I was asking. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I have plenty of clearance for the 33x12.50 tires now. But the air bag kits I have seen bolt *outside* the frame rails, and it looks like they come very close to rubbing the inside of the rear tires. Since I have these 33x12.50s, I am worried that the bags/brackets would rub the inner sidewall. Do you know what I mean?

    Thanks!
    Richard
     
  20. Pookster

    Pookster 1/2 ton status

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2000
    Posts:
    3,195
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    NYC, NY, USA
    Yep, know exactly what you mean. But hey also make ones that fit on the spring pack themselves.
     

Share This Page