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So what clutch would you use??

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by ben427, Jan 4, 2004.

  1. ben427

    ben427 1/2 ton status

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    I did a search, but all it came up with was hydro clutch swap stuff. What clutch would you use for a truck with a built 468, 44s and a driver who likes cutch drops. I was thinking dual friction centerforce. any suggestions?? /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    dual friction sounds like the right one. High output engine, big tires, etc etc. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Luk.

    That said, I have a Zoom and I'm happy with it.
     
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    IMHO, Stay away from Centerforce. It is a waste of $$$. I bought into it when I swapped in my 4-speed and got the dual friction clutch. The pressure plate is made by LUK anyhow. But I had it in for about 9months and the centerforce POS throw out bearing took a crap. Then my truck sat until I swapped in my built 454. Now it has a LUK ProGold in it. I LOVE this clutch. It is smooth and I absolutely hammer on it. It was also pretty cheap IMO at $170 for the Disc, pressure Plate and T.O. bearing and alignment tool. I personally will only use LUK clutches in all my stuff from now on...

    Chris
     
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    Didn't I hear somewere that NAPA clutches are LUK?
     
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    Rayloc clutches from Napa are total crap. Stay away from them. I have heard mixed reviews about Centerforce units. I have a RAM and am happy w/ it, and I have also heard good things about the Hayes units.
     
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    I have a CF dual friction. I like it a lot with my Hydro setup. But I don't drop the clutch either....
     
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    Didn't I hear somewere that NAPA clutches are LUK?

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    I got mine from Napa, but it's a Zoom like Summit sells.
     
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    RAM Workhorse if you want a shelf stock setup. Ram
    has a couple of other setups as well, as does McLeod.
    I wouldn't give $0.05 for anything Centerforce makes.
    But then I'm somewhere between Neanderthal and Cromagnon
    when it comes to clutches and drivetrain. I only like to
    put the stuff together once, and I don't like breaking it.
    Besides, that SM465/NP205 was too heavy to pull out often.


    Were it mine, I'd put a 12" Borg&Beck/Long cover
    with 3600# static pressure over a six or eight puck
    sprung hub paddle clutch. On a steel flywheel of course.
    You won't hurt the clutch, but you're on your own as far
    as damage to your left leg and the rest of your drivetrain.
    By the way, I've already run the setup and it works, but it
    ain't for those with a weak left leg. You could get away with as little as 3000# static pressure I suppose. Biggest
    drawback to paddle clutches is that they are either in or
    out. But then I used a line lock on my truck and didn't care. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
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    Hmm sounds like ill be getting a luk pro gold.I was planning on avoiding the centreforce and the zooms sound like a stock replacement pretty much. I wouldnt mind a borg & beck either, had one behind a 350 and never gave me problems.
     
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    I'd only use a Borg & Beck if I had a hydro clutch...

    I've had a couple of Borg & Beck clutches and hated each one. They really take the fun out of driving the truck IMHO. I run a diaphragm clutch now and it's great.

    Rene
     
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    I've got a hydro in my rig, so thats no biggie. I'll have to see which is easier to get around here.
     
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    I am a big fan of the Borg&Beck style clutches ! They can really be made to offer a tremendous amount of friction at initial engagement.
    I also have had VERY good luck with some "Dual Disc" clutch set ups from Mcloed ( very exspensive but very effective )and they felt like a stock diaphram style clutch as far as pedal effort .
    NEVRENUF ran a Borg&Beck pressure plate with a Ceramic disc for many years and he loved it . The "Puller crowd with some diesels like the feramic disc's too.
    What ever which way you go I would stay away from a diaphram stuye pressure plate if you are going to thrash on it .
    Good luck , Tom
     
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    Yeah I say get a Borg&Beck and fuhgeddaboutit. /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif I have a 12" B&B in my c20, and a centerforce in my Jeep XJ, and don't feel much of a difference between the two at all, and the c20 is linkage whereas the Heep is hydro. If my 66 year old neighbor can drive a truck with a Borg&Beck with 3600# pressure plate and linkage type clutch, then anyone can /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I'd only use a Borg & Beck if I had a hydro clutch...

    I've had a couple of Borg & Beck clutches and hated each one. They really take the fun out of driving the truck IMHO. I run a diaphragm clutch now and it's great.

    Rene

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    Couldn't agree more. Rene told me this when I went to 4 speed. Went to Napa to get a clutch and they tried selling me a B&B, I remember saying right away, hang on a second, take that back! They had to order the diaphram one in, but it's well worth it in my opinion.

    I'm only 5'4" and 135-140, so I can hardly push the damn pedal down as-is. No borg and beck for me!

    I've had the diaphram clutch ever since I put the 4 speed in and couldn't be happier with the clutch itself. The mechanical linkage leaves something to be desired, so I'll be going to a hydraulic linkage before my truck leaves the yard again.

    I have never had my clutch slip on me, EVER.

    If you want a B&B, great, but it's certainly not for me!
     
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    My diaphram clutch hasn't slipped on me yet either...and that includes wheeling in Moab, tires jammed up against rocks etc etc. The pedal effort is less than half what it used to be with the B & B clutch.

    Rene
     
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    Yeah, I agree. I've beat the piss out of mine too. Never felt or smelled clutch burning yet.

    Thanks for saving my left leg, Rene!

    I've driven mech clutch trucks with B&B clutches. Screw THAT!
     

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