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solid axle camber shims????

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by ftn96, Feb 23, 2001.

  1. ftn96

    ftn96 1/2 ton status

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    Well, I have noticed that since I have replaced the ball-joints and spent a billion dollars on new tires, that the camber is off in the front. Now sine these are solid axles I know there is no magical adjusting gadget in the front to correct this.
    Where can I get some camber adjusting shims to fix this. I heard they make them, but have not heard where to get them. I'm talking about the shim spacers that go behind the spindle.
    And is there any cons to using these other than the obvious extra strain it would put on those spindle bolts?

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    Well it's a "Set at the factory" deal. Doubt your going to find them local. Might find them in a junk yard but probably have to call DANA or Currie to order them. Probably get a funny look from the dealer parts person.

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    Grimmy, I noticed your new little flag by your name. I take it you took the new position? LOL!!! Good luck!!

    Next question: You got any ideas or can you tell me how I could go about finding out how much my camber is off? Im assuming I should take it to a front end shop and have them give me the numbers.

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    Well I'm sure there is a certain amount of camber that is supose to be there. Probably something like 1 deg. Finding out that information may be the trick. Most shops have a trained monkey operating the alingment machine and doesn't really know what the camber is supose to be. They just turn stuff till it's in the green on the screen.
    If you have a level place that you can park the truck should be easy enough to figure out with a cheapo angle gage. First thing to check is that the axle tube is level on both sides of the pumpkin. If you find it's different both sides then you might have a bent tube or the tube as shifted where it's pressed into the housing (not uncommon).
    If everything ckecks out there then I would think you should be able to read the angle off the face of the rim to see how far off you are.
    Once you figure that out I bet you could just set the axle on jack stands and again check for level (or the angle it's sitting at) and then measure off the face of the knuckle where the spindle bolts on and turn the shim till you see the angle you want.
    I think the key here is making sure the axle is level or figuring the degrees off and doing the math to get what the camber's true reading is.

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    Thanks "Grimmy". Happy mediating.

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    Find a shop that specializes in front end alignments and ask them about it. There are degreed shims that they can install between the spindle and the knuckle to adjust the camber. But be prepared, there's a lot more labor involved since they have to pull everything off of both sides to install them. It ain't cheap.

    They take the readings, calculate what corrections they need, then pull everything apart and install the shims. Then they check it again.

    Perhaps you could persuade them to take the measurements and sell you the shims, marked for location and orientation, and let you install them yourself. That would save you a ton of cash.

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    Yeah yeah, thats what Im talking about. I need to take the front back apart anyway when I regear the frontend anyway. I hope this will be the last time I have to take the front back apart, at least for 6 months anyway. LOL!!! Yeah, right.

    But yeah, I was hoping that I could get someone to give me the numbers and the parts, then let me play with the grease.

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    Ok, I just called around and found a guy here in town that finished all my questions before I got them out. He tells me that the key way or what ever you want to call it on the spindle is supposed to be on the top. Which is all fine and dandy. If the spindle is all straight and not bent adn has no shims, then it doesn't really matter. But he tells me that I need to take the spindle to the machine shop and have them spun to see if they are straight before I buy shims. He does carry them and has the aluminum ones and not the plastic ones that most people sell. I started laughing adn asked? PLASTIC????
    Who in the hell would use plastic in a place like that? He said not me. LOL!!!! ANyway, Grimmy and HAIR..... Thanks. I got it under control now.

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    Laugh all you want but that is one of the ways to adjust your camber. There are actually 2 ways to accomplish this...one the shims for the spindles...and 2...they make a ecentric inner sleeve for the top ball joint and they run about $16 a pop...i have allways used the plastic shims...never had a problem yet! And i do my own alignments at the shop....don't trust anyone...lol,

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    I just like the sound feeling of metal insted of platic in a place with so much weight and tension, adn well ... heat. But plastic may do just fine. I'd rather have the metal. Now on this ball joint sleeve. It sounds a little ecentric. But either way it goes Im gonna have to break it down to parade rest to do either one. I know you should be able to take the sleeve out or adjust it without having to take everything out of the front end, but everytime I have tried that I broke my sleeve socket in to ittty bitty pieces and at 25 bones a pop that gets kinda expensive.

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