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Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Chevy305, Jan 4, 2007.

  1. Chevy305

    Chevy305 6 Lug 14bsf Status Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    Ok so I had an hour today to change my oil and like everything I do something has to go wrong! :mad: I drained the oil and now trying to replace the oil filter. I CANT GET THE OIL FILTER OFF!!!! :eek1: :mad: :mad: :mad:

    I am turning it the correct way but I have to apply so much force on the thing that I have caved it in and now it has a hole in it and I still can't get the thing to budge. I have put all my strength into it with several types of oil filter wrenches and I desperately tried some channel locks but that just crushed the thing even more!

    Anyone have any tips or tricks for me?
     
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    dhcomp 3/4 ton status Premium Member

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    Its a PITA and messy, but pound a screw driver through the heart of it, and turn it that way.
     
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    i did this too once. i punched a hole in it with my filter wrench and got a little more leverage. just keep trying it will eventually come off.
     
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    Is the engine warm or hot? If so, let it cool all the way down and then try again.
    Also, this may sound stupid but maybe try turning in the opposite direction. It can't hurt.
     
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    didn't think of that, I'll go try that right now


    Also this is the second Fram oil filter I have punched a hole in. I hate Fram now. Good thing I got a Mobil 1 to put in its place!
     
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    I have just switched from Fram back to Delco after an Epiphany at the dealership .

    They are just as bad . Its ALL filters , and its from overtightening . I am guilty of doing it too :o
     
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    the engine is cool. but the oil is still luke warm
     
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    Ya but the K&N I had on there before came off in a jiffy
    Plus I like how they have the hex nut stamped onto the bottom so all that is needed is a wrench and bam! the filter is off
     
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    yeah, a little heat expansion and overtighting does it every time.

    Good luck, and may the force be with you; always :D :wink1: !
     
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    That nut stamped on teh k&n's is really a good idea. They could even put a port to accept a 3/8" ratchet.

    Anyways, it took me practically 75k worht of oil changes on my truck, plus various other vehicles, to finally not overtighen the filters. Yah, i still use fram, but only cause of the grippy stuff on teh filter.
     
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    i'm always mad at parts that dont go on/come apart like they're supposed to after i install them incorrectly too.

    read the directions next time... :rolleyes:
     
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    L.M.A.O. :haha: :haha: !!
     
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    sort of off the subject I always weld a crappy socket on the oil drain that way all i need is a ratchet as for the oil filter the screw driver works best.

    I used to overtighten them all the time too and sometimes still do.
     
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    Oh Jeremy what a tool you are....:haha: and helpful too.:haha:
    How bout trying a chisel at the base of the filter where it goes on the block.
    Did you put oil on the gasket before install, and only tighten 3/4 turn?:eek1:
     
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    Yes I know to always oil rubber seals before installing them on anything, same goes for oil filters.



    But Wow I am impressed, I got a lot of responces! :bow: Thanks for the help everyone!

    The screwdriver method worked the best for me after giving it 3 stabs. I was finally able to get it off after A LOT of cussing and swearing. I even flipped it off once or twice. :eek1: I'll get a picture of the holy catastrophy of an oil filter that I was finally able to get off tomorrow.
     
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    I use a rubber strap wrench. Never a problem.
     
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    I`ve over tightened mine a couple times, but I`ve always been able to get it off with a filter wrench...
     
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    weve got a strap at work thats simlar to a seat belt material, ive anialated some oil filters at work but theyve always come off
     
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    Had many stuck oil filters!..

    You guys should have worked in a junkyard that had mostly OLD cars and trucks,antiques that sat many years, before we had to try and resurect some of them!..we ran into LOTS of things that wouldn't unscrew anymore!..:doah:

    We had battles with many oil filters that wouldn't unscrew--we'd try spearing them with screwdrivers,pry bars,etc..many times we'd end up ripping the entire canister off,leaving only the "base plate" attached to the engine!..but once its peeled away,the base can be removed with an air chisel,or improvised tool made of a "U" shaped peice of steel that fits in two of the many holes in the base of the filter,and a pry bar..we also used the torches to heat up the filter base too--once the rubber gasket burns,it usually comes off easily..

    I'd never use a FRAM filter on anything I own,after seeing one cut away,and whats inside them (or should I say the LACK of whats inside them!?) --compared to a WIX or BALDWIN filter,they are junk..they cost little more,but I feel they are well worth another dollar or two..one thing I wont skimp on is oil and filters--I'll pinch pennies everywhere else,but not on those two items..:crazy:
     

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