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steering and 42s

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by muddybuddy, Mar 25, 2006.

  1. muddybuddy

    muddybuddy 3/4 ton status

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    so i got my truck done, or what i thought was done, so i got in and put it into reverse. i noticed that the 1 bleeding job i did on it was not enough as i had no brakes at all, fortunately my driveway is flat, so no problem. how ever, i also tried to turn the steering wheel, and it wouldnt turn. for now its jus got cross-over, im waiting to get the truck 100% driveable so i can take it to school to have the hydro ram mounts welded on.

    even without the hydro assist, i should be able to steer right? im pretty sure i have enough fluid in it, and i think is did a suffecient bleed job on it (turning the wheel back and forth lock to lock many times til its easy, without tires). am i missing something?

    thanks
     
  2. ryan22re

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    jack up the front, then see if you can turn the wheels.
     
  3. 79k20350

    79k20350 3/4 ton status

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    it can take along time to bleed a system properly or liek when i put my last motor in just a few its weird. if it has alot of air in it than it can be a pain. is it hard to steer or can you not steer at all?
     
  4. jekbrown

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    yeah, you should be able to turn at least a lil bit. I agree with the about, put the front axle on stands and do some testing. If all seems good, things are completely bled etc... drop it down and try again. For 42s, hydro assist is pretty much a minimum offroad. If you can afford a good high end full-hydro system, that might be even better. :)

    j
     
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    full hydro aint street legal...
     
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    make sure you've got a brace on the steering box as well. if not, you could end up with this...

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    yep, same thing happened to mine--hydro it and box the frame in.
     
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    This is weird, I dont understand. I could turn my 42s easier then my Hondas wheels, with the stock steering. Double check all your steering and check the frame, like everyone said.
     
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    yeah, i dont have hydro either, just crossover and i can turn my 40's at idle with 1 finger.

    ryan
     
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    thats ok, the cops don't know that. :grin:

    j
     
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    alright, ill try it again. what is the proper way to bleed the power steering? i think im going to add more fluid and try it again
     
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    but if you were to ever get in a accident (even if its not your fault) the insurance adjuster can refuse to pay if he found something like that. then again his 8" lift aint exactly legal either...
     
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    according to the law, it might not be 100% legal, but that doesnt mean its not safe. thanks to ck5, ive made sure i havent taken any shortcuts.

    anyways, so did i do the correct bleeding method? when i bled the steering before, the draglink wasnt hooked up, could that make a difference?
     
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    dude its an insurance company, doesnt matter if its safe or not. if its not legal they wont pay plain and simple
     
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    i know i understand that. but my question in the thread is about my steering, not if my truck is legal or not.


    so did i do the correct bleeding method? when i bled the steering before, the draglink wasnt hooked up, could that make a difference?
     
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    If you have a Detroit up front make sure your hubs are not locked. If you are running hub flanges you will have one heck of a time steering it without a ram. Locked fronts do not steer well without a ram. When I put the Powerlock in mine it would not steer with the hubs locked. Put the ram on and all is well.
     
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    I have a detroit in my front D60 and I drive it all over the place with the hubs locked. It steers just fine......now put it in 4WD and that is another story all together
     
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    if your trying to bleed the ram actually maby even if your tryng to bleed the box the the orbital valve in the box only opens when theres a preasure pushing back on it from the road so without the drag link hooked up the valve might not open. Allthogh if the wheel is turned all the way to lock and you contunue trying to turn that is enough to open the valve.

    hope that helps
     
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    Didn't mean to get off track but it came up. yes you bleed it correct;y, you just need to do that about a thousand more times.
     
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    aight thanks bro
     

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