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steering column wiring

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by KENNY, Jul 3, 2001.

  1. KENNY

    KENNY 1/2 ton status

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    I have an 84/305/4spd. my problem is well several all of which I attribute to the steering column switch. the cruise control doesn't work have run tests and all lead to wiring in column. Also wiper pump will throw fluid while wipers are on and no intermittent wipers (won't work). also now getting the left signal go on when the right signal is on. Was told by friend mechanic that it is the switch. looked it up in the manual and stated that take off wheel and plastic cover with some tool. can i substitute this tool. Anyone have similar problems. would like to change steering wheel while i'm in there.
     
  2. Twiz

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    Those are all seprate circuts, and if a '84 has a multi-function lever like the new ones do (even if it doesn't). The circuts are not intertcnected, or related in any way, other than the lever that operates them. If ALL of the problems where in the colum, it would indicate a MAJOR short, and you would have bigger problems than you have right now. So, hit each problem independently, do alot of diagnostics, don't just assume the problem "has" to be with part "X" or switch "Y".

    Good luck in the cruise problem, you need to diag that one to know.

    The old style wiper/washer motor assemblys are not the best sys. I've ever seen. Still, needs to be diag'd properly, to find the fault.

    Intermitant wipers, may also be a wiper motor problem, or a switch. Again, needs to be diag'd.

    Lights are a "back feed" circut. When the turn signal indicators do something goofy, it is a designed in indicator to the driver that something is wrong and to have it checked.
    The first step I take is to check the lights, turn on the park lights- then check. Turn on the blinkers- then check. Turn on the hazards switch- than check. Chances are that one or several bulbs are inop. Also, it is not uncomon for the wrong bulb to also cause the sys. to "back feed", so check that as well. I've also chased down broken filements that have rewelded them selfs and appered to be O.K., but then the weld brakes over bumps- and the light goes out. Don't forget about the grounds and crrosion.

    Not what you were looking for as an answer? Well, thats the very best advise that can be given. The problem needs to be properly DIAGNOSED, before it can be fixed. Honestly, that is the number one rule. Feel free to ask for advise, but don't asume anything, until it as been diagnosed.

    Don't forget to check the grounds. Alot of the electrical sys. run to a common ground.

    Good luck!

    Twiztid
     
  3. Pugsley

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    Let's see if we can't break this down - To get to the columns internals, you need a lockplate remover. You can fab one up, but you can also get them for less than $10 at most parts houses.

    The only wiring inside the column for the cruise control is the multi-conductor cable from the turn signal stalk to the cruise controller under the dash.

    Your wiper problem is most likely the switch, which is located inside the column - the same applies to your turn signal problem. I'd wager that your upper column assemblies got damaged at some point, and you need to replace the control stalk, the turn signal switch and wiper switch.


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  4. 84_Chevy_K10

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    Clean the big white connector and you'll be suprised!

    Tim
    '84 Chevy K10, lifted, loud, fast, and 3/4 ton axles
     
  5. KENNY

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    SPENT THE GOOD PART OF THE MORNING LOOKING UP AT THE STEERING WHEEL AND THE RAT'S NEST I MEAN THE WIRING HARNESS. WHERE ARE THESE SWITCHES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT (SORRY BEAR WITH ME) AND WHERE IS THE BIG WHITE CONNECTOR HAVE A MANUAL AND I SWEAR I THINK THAT IT CONFUSES ME MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. APPRECIATE THE RESPONSES.

    <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by kenny on 07/04/01 02:54 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
     
  6. Pugsley

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    Sure thing - The turn signal switch is located inside the column, in the little box protruding from the left side where the control stalk sticks out. The turn signal switch is directly behind the steering wheel, underneath the lockplate http://pugsley.alloffroad.com<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by Pugsley on 07/04/01 03:35 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
     
  7. KENNY

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    YOU THE MAN. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED. NOW DO YOU HAVE A PIC OF THE FUSE BOX?
     
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    Sure do - same place as the turn signal switch, next one below it[​IMG]

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    MAN, MY FUSE BOX DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT. THE GUY BEFOR ME MUST HAVE TOOLED AROUND WITH THE WIRING. HE CHANGED THE RADIO AND ADDED AN AMP. I DON;T SEE ANY OTHER ADDITIONS BUT THE WIRING IS A MESS.
     
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    If it's that bad, you might want to consider buying a Painless Wiring harness kit and fuse block. The cost involved easily pays for itself over the long run.

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    Let me start by thanking all for answering my questions. I figured this out. while in auto shop looking for something for my chevy nova, i came across a wiring harness for the towing. said to just plug it in came specifically for the 84blaz. the previous owner had put a universal u-haul wiring harness for the hitch. bought the unit went home checked the job he had done. cleaned up his mess installed the unit and BAM, everything worked back there. then decided to tackle the wiper problem,since the column wasn't the problem for the lights maybe not the wipers. ended up replacing the unit and Bam everything works 100%. Again thanks for your help you got my brains cooking. thanks.
     
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    Hey dude, sorry I couldn't help you out!

    Ratch
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    No problem - Glad I could be of some help[​IMG]

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