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steering/lockplate??

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by jms, Jun 28, 2001.

  1. jms

    jms 1/2 ton status Author

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    Could somebody please enlighten me how I get the ring out that retains the lockplate on the steering column? I've got the lockplate tool, but then what? Snap-ring pliers? Needle-nose? Tried small screwdrivers but failed and lost patience. Info's greatly appreciated - thanks, michael

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    If I remember correctly, I think a small flat head screwdriver worked on mine. Compress the sping/lockplate then with patience remove the spring. It is not a fun job, but doable.

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  3. 84_Chevy_K10

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    Use a lockplate tool to hold it down and use a small pick or a screwdriver to pick it out.

    Tim
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    Use the tool, then slide a booger-picker down the splines on the shaft. Should come right off, slide a small flat head screw driver in.

    Pete

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    who needs a lock plate compressor, i did it by pushing on the plate and using a tiny screwdriver. Of course now i cant get it back on without the tool.

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    How far are you going in the column? If you are going further than the turnsignal, (tightening the tilt mech???) you will face at least 2 more specialty tools. I took mine to the shop. If you go that far buy a new plastic sleeve (the one that goes around the base and moves your gear indicator. They wear out and slip eventually.

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    Just put a whole new column if the tilt is loose. Mine was trash, couldn't even be rebuilt. Put it i the front yard and burned it!

    Tim
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    I didn't say buy one, I said use one. I needed one to replace an lock cyl. the other day, I just bent a peice of flat stock in a U-shape and drilled a hole in it. Thats all the tool is. You don't need it, especially if you have two people, but why not spend five minutes making one?

    Pete

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  9. jms

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    Yup, trying to get the tilt mechanism tight - feels like rowing oars right now. 2 more tools? I'm kinda starting to enjoy driving around to all these NAPA stores... takes my mind off work. One guy was really helpful and even found some longer carb bolts (for a total investment of $1.64) so I could install my Q-Jet spacer, but now it stumbles a bit on idle, maybe a vacuum leak, we'll see whether I got all gaskets and ports right, but at least it runs again... thanks for the info, michael

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    Okay, I've declared victory on the carb (for now), but had to cease and desist on the steering column fix. Any suggestions where to get a new column, as complete (wiring etc.) as possible? Dealer? Do the parts places have these? Can't do the junkyard thing b/c of zero skills.
    Thanks for all the help, michael

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    What specialty tools do you need for the column? A sloppy tilt isn't THAT hard to fix, hell, I have a write up on my page (linked below) on how to do it. With the lock plate tool costing $10, its not even worth the time spent making one IMO!
    A column is NOT worth throwing away just because it is loose. They weren't made to be used to pull yourself into the vehicle with, which is why they get loose.

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    It does pay to drop $4 on the E8 socket

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    Probably the bolts are loose not backed completely out - follow dyeagers instructions (or read them and see if you are up for it). Or call around and find a chevy guy that knows the prob, about 1/2 to 3/4 hour job if they have the tools and experience. Make sure you/they use locktite on the bolts.
    If the bolts have backed all the way out you may have damage. If all of them come out, the column is gonna end up in your lap, power goes off (I think) and you will have your hands full.

    Dave

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  14. 73CowBlazer

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    Even if you use the tool you will find that after the 6th or 7th time out you will want to put a new ring in. It gets kind of loose after too many uses!!!!!!
    Know what I mean?
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    I put a C-clip on mine after I went through it yesterday - according to GM you are supposed to replace the lockring every time you open the column - I figured that a C-clip would last longer, and eliminate the need for another 2 mile pilgrimage to Napa.

    If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all[​IMG]
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  16. dyeager535

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    I'm pretty sure that a 12 point socket will fit on that torx no problem, as opposed to that e-8. IMO those botls don't have to be too tight (I have seen the plate they screw into crack) But some loc-tite and snug should be good enough, as long as you don't use the steering wheel as a handle to get int he vehicle.

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    12 points will round them off pretty easy - one of Sears' funky 8 point 3/16" sockets will work pretty well, but for $3.69+Tax, may as well go with the right tool. Besides, you can never have too many tools, right?

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    I had the same prob on my s-10. I spent the money on the tools rather than on taking it in to have it done. The pins that the colum pivots on are very hard to get out. You have to use a slide hammer to get them out. It took me 15min for one side and 2 hours for the other (I almost broke the side window out when it finally did come out). That was the only thing that made it hard for me.

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    My pin-remover is much more fun than the actual thing - I've got some really long 8-32 studs that I thread into the pin, and then grab onto it with the heavy duty bodywork slide hammer, and use fairly gentle taps to pull it out. Works as slick as can be, and cheap to boot.

    If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all[​IMG]
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    I was too lazy to drive to the store and buy one. Plus I think I already have one lost somewhere in the garage. I agree, it's certainly not worth changing out the column for, it probably less work too.

    This is one of the reasons I like my fixed column, it's survived 6 years of me pulling my fat arse in by the wheel just fine. One thing that I do is to pull on the side of the wheel, not the top, this way you aren't putting stress on the lock pin.

    Pete


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