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steering on 44" boggers.......the cheap way????

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 84caddyvert, Nov 10, 2004.

  1. 84caddyvert

    84caddyvert Registered Member

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    steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I bought an 82 k5 w/12" trail master lift. 3" body lift, 2" wheel hop reducers, running 44" boggers. The truck needed lots of work to get to the piont that it is at now, but the main problem was steering! This puppy will about dislocate your shoulder trying to turn at almost any speed. I am going to do cross over steering this weekend, but I know i will need more to turn tires at lower speeds. I am aware of hydraulic assist and full hydro steering, but i am also working on a pretty tight budget since this is just a weekend play toy. Does an body know of any way to beef up the 2wd steering box or pump when doing crossover steering to make it a little stronger. I don't expect to be able to turn with one finger, but I gotta do something. Any help would be awesome.

    thanks,
    big Will /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    Here is one way to modify your pump.

    Pump Mod by WTO
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    don't go crazy with the pump mods, you will burn up the pump if you do them all.
     
  4. nvrenuf

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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    I agree with OL14BLAZ, you've got pump issues.
     
  5. 84caddyvert

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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    wow that was the best answer anyone could give me... with pictures and all...damn thanks man. /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    You're going to need hydro assist. You can home brew it for less than $100.
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    I understand bigger tires put more stress on the stock parts, but I dont see why you have problems, and I never did with my 42s, except when getting sideways on the street, it is a LITTLE hard. With the push pull steering it turned with my pinky, and after the crossover, it was about the same. Maybe it is because I have the frame braced pretty good. /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

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    You're going to need hydro assist. You can home brew it for less than $100.

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    Can you list the parts. Seems a little low. I was figuring about $250?
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    You need to check the frame to make sure it hasn't cracked. I've done the 12" lift on blazer and busted the frame at the steering box. I've parted that truck & now have a burb sitting on 44" boggers. I've also built it right this time by adding the frame brace & reinforced plates.I also have ord crossover steering with the agr rock ram steering. I can turn the steering wheel with one finger /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif There isn't a cheap way if you want to do it right. /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

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    You're going to need hydro assist. You can home brew it for less than $100.

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    Can you list the parts. Seems a little low. I was figuring about $250?

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    Here is the post
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    My advice would be to go and get yourself a D60, and run some Full Hydro. You can probably do it for $500 (Steering), $800 (axle), $250 (gears)...

    But if you don't want to get a D60 and you rive on the street (didn't read the whole thread), then you should just go with Crossover and hydro assist. Crossover probably won't be enough for 44" Bogg's
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    My money is still on the current pump being weak or bad.

    There are lots of upgrades you could do but the fact that it takes so much effort to turn now would indicate poor system pressure or parts binding somewhere. I ran 44's for years using non-hydro assist, push/pull type, OE power steering without the problems you are experiencing.
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    I would bet a worn pump too. I would change it, they are like $60 from napa. Even if thats not the culprit a new pump can't hurt. I would probably go hydro assist.

    Sort of off topic. You didn't say if your frame was braced up or not and I would guess you like to play in the mud since your on 44's and 15" of lift. I don't have any brace or plate on mine and when I'm in the mud I sort of let the steering wheel in my hands slightly and let the truck guide itself. Jerking the wheel and trying to make it turn out of ruts is very hard on the frame. On the street I never turn the wheel unless I'm moving and try and make gradual turns and not jerk it. It may be overkill but I haven't cracked the frame yet with probably 30K as a lifted truck withlarge tires and hours on hours in the mud and what not. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Just trying to help if I can, especially if you are tight on money and can't afford to comletely brace up. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    Ummm, yeah, thats what Im sayin'. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    Re: steering on 44\" boggers.......the cheap way????

    when did trailmaster make a 12" lift?
     

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