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STILL TRYIN TO GET IT RUNNIN. STILL WONT FIRE!!! page 3

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 01maroonz71, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. 01maroonz71

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    well, i can't turn it over by hand, but the starter spins it, just not fast and it drains the battery real fast. what can i spray in the plug holes to free up any rust/gunk/whatever that could be in there keeping me from turning it over???? thanks
    ~dave
     
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    Mystery Oil works pretty good. Put some in, let it soak for a bit, and hope for the best.
     
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    why are you even bothering then? It needs to come apart. if its so crappy that it won't even start, you will have to rebuild it anyway.

    could try spraying PB blaster in the spark plug holes.

    Pull the plugs also. will crank easier in that situation.
     
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    Even regular motor oil would work, It really should turn over by hand, did you try using a breaker bar? put some oil in each cylinder, let it sit, and then try turning it over by hand, It could be more then just rust and gunk.
     
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    ryoken Puppy Fabricator Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    pull all your plugs... squirt a couple tablespoons worth of marvel mystery oil in each cylinder.. spin motor over... repeat...

    If this was a stock small block out of that G20 van, it should turn over easy, not a high compression motor...

    If your trying to start it with timing too retarded, it'll turn over like cr@p...

    What's the deal with the dizzy? did you redo that?
     
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    ryoken Puppy Fabricator Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    sheesh, you guys all replied in the time it took me to write that! :doah: :haha:
     
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    are you trying to turn it by hand with the plugs in place? that will be very hard if the cylinders have good compression.

    lots of guys on here swear by pb blaster. haven't tried it myself. zep is awesome. wd40 is no good for this purpose, imo. marvel mystery oil is good stuff.

    EDIT: Woah! when i typed that, nobody had replied yet. before i hit send about a million people were on it. good board.
     
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    perfect...i pulled all the plugs, then it would move a tad, but not really. two of the plugs had a small amount of rust colored dust on the plugs, and all smelled like fuel. squirted some penetrating oil up in there, let it sit for about 10minutes, and now i can spin it over by hand no problem at all. im gonna let it sit till tomm. replace plugs wires, and start her up. hopefully. :)

    thanks alot ya'll!!!
     
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    Let us know what happens.
     
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    All the more reason to become a member... :deal:
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    what he said. it's worth every penny, as you can see.
     
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    Please tell me the silver bullet isn't your engine issue?
     
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    hell no man...runs like a champion. :) i thought about putting the silver bullet on the windshield. i actually have a few tricks up my sleeve with the silver one. i got my eye on a D60 man...but ill start a build thread for that truck. the motor issues is with my mud truck.
     
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    Too advanced, and the starter will be fighting combustion too.
     
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    well, i let the PB blaster sit for 2 days, and then turned it over by hand like 10 full rotations, and it spun good. now the problem is that it tries to start, then it kinda backfires. it runs for like 1 or 2 seconds, then boom, and it fires out the exhaust. this does this with the timing set diff. all the time. we adjust timing like 5 degrees, then do it again, boom....we did this like 25 times trying to get timing right.

    could this be a cause of not enough fuel????

    the reason i ask is because the fuel line seems like theres no fuel in it, but i can feel it flow when i give the pump power(electric fuel pump)

    also, if i let teh pump run for about 2 or 3 sec. and pump the gas pedal like 4 or 5 times, it fires, runs for a few seconds, then backfires.

    what would cause this??? i know the firing order is right(i think):D

    i pulled plug one, put finger in hole, then right after it blew my finger off i laced from that point. (looking straight on, plug was at the 8'oclock position on dizzy) but even if i was one off, would'nt adjusting timing like i did make up for that?????


    any input will help guys!
    thanks again!!!
    ~Dave
     
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    nope, your dizzy's off... when you start to feel compression on the #1 cylinder (driverside, front), you need to stop, look at your balancer and turn it over by hand in the same direction until the mark comes up to 0...
     
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    oh, so as soon as i feel any compression at all, quit hitting the starter and then turn a tad more by hand till the timing mark hits zero on the tab, then lace from there???? do i lace from the point the dizzys' about to hit, or the one that it just hit??? thanks alot man.
     
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    After you turn it by hand and the mark hits zero, have your dizzy loose enough to adjust and turn it so the rotor is pointing right at a tower. lace from that tower as # 1...
     
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    beautiful. thanks man!

    seems like with all the timing combos we tried, we would have hit the right one. geuss not.
    thanks again.
     
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    nah, that dizzy could be 100 degrees off.. you'll notice if you start hand turning the minute you feel compression how far you have to keep turning the balancer to get the line to 0...
     

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