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stupid 14 bolt, need help

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by shupach, Nov 10, 2001.

  1. shupach

    shupach 1/2 ton status

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    so i was all excited, hot damn, im gonna install my 14 bolt, after much work getting it under the truck, the spring perches dont line up, they're off by about 1/2-3/4 of an inch. im all mad, wat do i do? im guessing im gonna hafta reweld them into position.

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  2. Esteban86K5

    Esteban86K5 1/2 ton status

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    You must have gotten a 14 bolt out of a 1 ton. They are not the same as the 3/4 ton. All you have to do is cut them of and weld them back on. Good luck

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  3. HarryH3

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    It's pretty common for the springs not to just drop right onto the perches. Every time I've ever installed a lift kit, or swapped an axle, I've had to wrestle the center pins into the holes on the perches. 1/2 inch is pretty close. Measure against your old axle and see if the distance between the perches isn't the same on both of the axles. It should be. A 14-bolt from a 1-ton is off by at least a couple of inches, so I think you're probably really close to having that bad boy installed! (It's heavy, ain't it?) [​IMG]

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  4. Esteban86K5

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    Dang, Your right Harry. For some reason I read 2 3/4 inches off. Which is about what the one tons perches are at. But 1/2 to 3/4 inches is nothing. Get that ole prybar out. Or loosen the spring bolts a little so it moves enough to get them installed. Your O.K.!!! Get out there and put that pig in.[​IMG]

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    Oddly enough I was just outside measuring mine...I got 40 1/4" between the spring pads as near as I could figure. If it's narrower than that it may have been a one ton diff.

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  6. shupach

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    god i luv this forum, aight tomorrow the crowbar is coming out.

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  7. Esteban86K5

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    It's only what 6pm right now? Get out there and put the pig in now. Come on you can do it. You will sleep better tonite knowing that it's in.[​IMG]

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  8. HarryH3

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    I usually just pull on the axle while pushing against the spring with my feet until it lines up. [​IMG] I've found it's easier if you have the spring resting lightly against the perch, this way when the pin lines up, it will be forced into the hole and stay there. If you leave a big gap, it will keep trying to come apart while you tighten the nuts on the u-bolt.

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  9. shupach

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    i have this thing called a gf, and while we did "work" on the blazer this morning, i think im going to go out w/ her tonite. sorry, but tomrrow is another day(probably do it when i get back at like 12).

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    hey wat about 1/2- 3/4 inches off on each side.

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    Did you measure your old axle? Sounds like it should still be ok to pull it in.

    About the "working" with your girl friend. First time my Father saw my (soon to be ex) wife, we were rebuilding the 455 in my 66 GTO in my Fathers shop. He wasn't supposed to be there that day so we were "goofing off" a little. Anyway, he shows up and she had clear (greasy) hand prints on the back of her jeans and a few other choice places. She had planted a few on me too. He never let me live it down! [​IMG]

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    Ah!!! A g/f. No good I tell ya. They don't wanna help you work on the truck. Don't wanna hear every mod you've done and what you've planned. Don't care where in the heck you've been with the truck. Haha, then why in the hell do we all want one?!

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    ok so wat if like when i line up one of the centerpins, the other is off by like 2 inches? is that good bad or evil?

    thanks,

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    Then the perches will need to be moved...[​IMG]

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    Cut and weld!!! Cut and Weld!!![​IMG][​IMG]

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    Yep, sounds like you got a 1 ton axle. 1/2" is no big deal, 1" is pushing it, 2" is too much. Time to do a little cutting and welding. Look at the article on this site that shows how to make some heavy perches out of 2" square tubing.

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    You might also want to check and see if the shock mounts on the 14 bolt are located on the correct side to mount your shocks. If they're on the opposite side I think you have a 14 bolt that came out of a one ton.

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    @#$**O&amp;@O*&amp;$#@O*&amp;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes the shock mounts are flipped.

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    Sorry to hear about that... Looks like it's time to bring out the torch and welder.

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    i got another question while im at it, do u recommend ubolts or the square upside ubolt design thinger, the axle came w/ plates for the square ubolts.

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