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The next generation...ugh

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by big pappa b, Mar 15, 2004.

  1. big pappa b

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    Does anyone else think that our up and coming generation of young people are in need of some help? Their attitudes, work ethic snd general lack of respect is a bit unnerving. I see this in my sons' friends, on this board and others. They seems to think that thiings should be given to them without having to work for things. I'm sure a lot of this stems from lack of "PROPER" punishment while being raised. I can't begin to tell you how many times I had my ass handed to me by the old man when I screwed up. Anyone it's "timeout"...where's my BULLSHIT flag. It's the whole lack of consequences for bad deeds..I know it
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    I used to get time outs when I was like 2 or 3 maybe. After I got old enough that I really knew what I was doing was wrong is when the butt woopins started. I turned out ok I think.
    Im not a criminal and I support myself while serving my country!
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    Amen, /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif(oops, I think they banned that word along with the severe a$$ whoopings)

    I was brought up with belt designs permanently embedded in my cheeks, and while I didn't much care for it then, I know now that it was the right thing for my parents to do. I'll probably end up in jail someday, but I bust my 2 year old son's butt when I feel he needs it, and I hear from other people all the time that he is the best little boy they have ever seen. /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gifMust be doin somethin right

    We should start a petition to send to the pansy a$$es in congress to reinstate a$$ whoopins and prayer in schools. WAIT, before you get all upset, I mean we should allow kids to pray or read the Bible or whatever if they want to NOT make them. Oh, yeah, not that it is less important, but /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gifthe Pledge of Allegiance also /forums/images/graemlins/usaflag.gif.
     
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    I agree 100%. Had a discussion at work a week ago with a 27 yr old "supervisor" at work. If you look at the world surrounding teenagers these days, it's easy to see why they expect everything should be given to them right now. The keyboard we are typing on is partly to blame... the entire world is at thier fingertips. You want to win playing a video game right now? go get cheat codes. You want to talk to a friend now? IM,trakphone,cellphone. You want answers to an upcoming test now? internet. You want porn now? internet. Now as a reference, I'm pushing 50 and I had none of these things growing up and I have a work ethic. My sons,23 and 18 are having a hard time understanding why a work ethic is important, and yes I cracked their butts whenever I needed them to remember why not to do something. They are surrounded by the easy way out of everything. If anybody out there has the answer, 'fess up...
     
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    Well I'm 36 with 16 & 13yr old boys. I'm also in the Air Force and am all the time hearing about these kids that have been in the service for like a year or so and they get busted for drugs and other stupid things. They have screwed themselves for life basically. Drugs are a huge no-no so they get kicked out with a dishonarable discharge. That's something that almost every employer will from on. I wonder what they are thinking cause I know for a fact that the penalties for such actions are thoroughly explained
     
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    "..i used to walk 5 miles in the snow to school when I was a kid..."

    Lets face it, the US is driven to make life easier, healthier and fatter! These kids are products of your hard work. If prior generations did not work hard to build and invent our current country, this would not exist, but most likely the US would not exist either. So I am ok with
    teens of today not knowing "what it was like" because they face other issues that many of us did not.

    Imagine if the internet did not exist.....what would your truck look like? Remember going to the library to look up information?
     
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    Well I'm 36 with 16 & 13yr old boys. I'm also in the Air Force and am all the time hearing about these kids that have been in the service for like a year or so and they get busted for drugs and other stupid things. They have screwed themselves for life basically. Drugs are a huge no-no so they get kicked out with a dishonarable discharge. That's something that almost every employer will from on. I wonder what they are thinking cause I know for a fact that the penalties for such actions are thoroughly explained

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    i agree. when i was getting out of the Corps, there were a lot of morons coming in. they did not respect anything or anyone.

    its too bad that their dishonorable discharges can be oberturned after like 6 months
     
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    I was brought up with a switch, belt ,shoes, whatever mamma had in her hand. God forbid pops had to do it. I did party a bit in my early 20's. For some reason though I got older and everything they taught me was sunk in pretty deep. I work my tail off now, love my wife, very polite to people etc. I thank my parents for how they raised me. My mammas a saint , and my pops is actually one of my best friends now. I miss America the way it was. I strongly believe corporal punishment is NOT child abuse. And yes these younger kids don NOT deserve anything handed to them. When I wanted a car my father said it best "Get a Job Son". /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif


    Of course there are exceptions. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    I agree 100%. Had a discussion at work a week ago with a 27 yr old "supervisor" at work. If you look at the world surrounding teenagers these days, it's easy to see why they expect everything should be given to them right now. The keyboard we are typing on is partly to blame... the entire world is at thier fingertips. You want to win playing a video game right now? go get cheat codes. You want to talk to a friend now? IM,trakphone,cellphone. You want answers to an upcoming test now? internet. You want porn now? internet. Now as a reference, I'm pushing 50 and I had none of these things growing up and I have a work ethic. My sons,23 and 18 are having a hard time understanding why a work ethic is important, and yes I cracked their butts whenever I needed them to remember why not to do something. They are surrounded by the easy way out of everything. If anybody out there has the answer, 'fess up...

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    This, I think, is an explanation of quite a bit that may be percieved as wrong with our society. Life as it used to be got boring, because it's now possible to experience so much more, get ideas you never would have thought of alone, etc, etc.
    Parents have a rougher time being the biggest influence now more than ever before.
     
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    A small glimmer of light was found at lunch today!

    I was at Long John's with my wife and I was telling her about this thread (she shares my believes on punishment, religion, etc.) and I was telling her about the whipping part and this lady around 35 with a boy about 10 spoke up and said, "We whip our kids!" and gave me a big smile like she was all proud! /forums/images/graemlins/peace.gif

    PS-This may ruin my credibility on this subject, but I thought ya'll might like to know I am 25 and my wife is 22
     
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    I hate most kids even if I'm not too far off of being one. I think more isolated time can help a kid a lot, if your kid spends 50% of their time with drunken stoned out idiots who steal for thrills, they're going to be screwed up in the end.

    I was kind of bad between 14-17 when we didn't have a farm anymore, but that was only in the respect that I got things and didn’t have to pay for them.

    I think schools have a lot to do with it too. No good adult influences, teacher who don't care, staff in general who's only concern is not getting shot or sued. Who else is there? A bunch of damn kids. There are exceptions, I had 3 teachers who I liked, but one had to retire because he was so old (he was an Old World badass kind of teacher), and one was kind of too fruity for my tastes.

    My favorite people growing up were my dad, a now 70-year-old maintenance man, and my NTB Uncle Joe. Not some worthless pop star or the kid down the street who smoked pot all day and broke windows for fun.

    I grew up alone on a farm and had to work, and I did, though not as much as I now feel I should have. I got beat with shovels and ax handles, not to the point of being hurt, but it did hurt.

    Hell, I think I turned out alright.

    I know a kid like myself too, the crap version. Always got what he wanted, but instead of learning that that's wrong, he just kept doing it. All he wanted to do was smoke weed and get drunk and screw girls as young as he could get. I think 5 alcohol convictions, 3 destruction of property, 2 theft, 3 for weed, been to boot camp and is now in jail, been tired for rape once, wrecked 4 cars (LTD, Nice 78 Ford F150, Mercury Marauder, New Firebird) which he dealt drugs to pay for. Never got punished until recently, and that isn't stopping him. I'm glad I didn't hang around with him more than I did. He was really good at times, had a lot of potential. Waste.


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    You want to win playing a video game right now? go get cheat codes. You want to talk to a friend now? IM,trakphone,cellphone. You want answers to an upcoming test now? internet. You want porn now? internet.

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    Goddamnit, in my day, we had to work for our cheatcodes, we had to send a letter to correspond, we had to steal test answers to cheat, and we had the SEARS catalog for porn! That's hardship! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    I get what you're saying though

    In the end I think the US is on a downward trend of feelgood ,happy time, no offense, candy coated, plastic covered, heavily padded, homogenized Hell. We're willing to sell all of our freedom and integrity for a little more safety and a little more happiness.

    Sure it hurts to get beat up at school, but you beat ass back. I caught the end of an era when you stood up for yourself, and if you deserved a beating and got it, it was OK by her. I know I'd rather see a kid get beat down and come back later and knock out the kid who did it than come back and shoot him. .35" holes in the head don't heal like black eyes.

    Violence is “bad” these days, but violence is human nature. This is why there are victims, and the victims are not innocent.

    I know I rambled, (sorry) but I hope the thread is continued so I can add points if applicable.

    Pacifism through violence
     
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    so what exactly is the next generation? give an age range would ya??.. then ill think of a good reply...
     
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    I agree with all of you
    BUT THINK ABOUT WHAT OWR PARENTS WERE SAYING ABOUT US /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    age range?? well I see this a lot in early teenagers thru some in their early 20's. I didn't say it was a;; kids in this range but a majority of them. The school system has something to do with it too. I remember having to line up in the hallway with other when we screwed up and the teacher would bring out his 3ft long black rubber paddle with hole in ut and ask us to touch our ankles /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif

    Moms spankings were much better than dads. If I knew he was gonna do it I often acted like I was sleeping but he didnt care. Light and and the arm was swinging. Now my grandma ( dads mom) would send us to the willow tree for a switch. Don't bring back a small one or you would get it worse
     
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    I'm 21 years old, but I don't think I fit into this category. I think a lot of how kids, funny hearing me say that, act today is based on how they are being raised. Growing up, my parents, and grandparents for that matter, didn't hesitate to let me know if I messed up and wouldn't think twice about corporal punishment/spankings/whippings or whatever else you call it. I'm currently in the Air Force, and have been for the past 3 1/2 years, so I can relate to what some of you are saying. Seeing all the new guys, and girls, come in and watch a lot of them get kicked out for making stupid senseless decisions. Be it drugs, alcohol (underage, DUI, repeat offense), financial irresponsibility, or whatever the case may be, it seems to be an ongoing thing. Walking around the mall this past weekend when I was looking for a pair of khaki pants, the younger teenagers (12-16) running around there were unreal. Unruly, loud, and very inconsiderate and impolite. Its really sad in to me that kids growing up today are acting like this. I can't help but think what would have happened to me if I acted even half as bad as I did growing up. Not to say I was an angel, because that is far from the truth. I got my fair share of whoppings, but still. I wouldn't have been able to sit down if I acted like those kids at the mall were acting.

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    regarding "the whip"

    I supect that there are ALOT of teens that did get the "belt" and still fall into this "trouble" category. I would also suspect that there are ALOT of teens that have never been "punished" and are good kids.

    So what does this mean /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif I think it means that this is an age old "youth problem" that every single generation has faced.

    I personally have no objective opinion either way. I could care less what the kids of today are doing, what (i) did yesterday, or the kids of tomorrow will do.
     
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    Does anyone else think that our up and coming generation of young people are in need of some help? Their attitudes, work ethic snd general lack of respect is a bit unnerving.

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    Sounds like the 'boomers about 30-40 years ago...

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    Old farts have been saying this since the begining of time. /forums/images/graemlins/whistling.gif
     
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    hmmm.. i know not all people from my generation act the way you describe, in fact i consider myself one hardworking, ethical sonofabitch.. i think the school system and the culture that kids/people are exposed to nowadays has a LOT to do with behaviors in general, not just in kids or young adults..
     

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