there comes atime when you have to drop the brand loyalty...... and go with what works. since my operationally challenged suburban is not exactly feeding my need for wheelin. tomorrow my friend and i are going to look at and most likely buy an 81 toyota 4x4 pickup. it already has a cage from the cab to the front bumper, 4" springs and its been rolled once but the drivetrain is fine. we're gonna cut the front end out and build a flatbed for it (mot likely allprooffroad.com's flatbed kit) and build sliders and ditch the doors and beat the f**k out of it. it needs tires which wont be a big problem, ive got an F-350 and a flatbed trailer to get it home with. the big decision of the moment is what color are we gonna spray it? im thinking either flat black, grey or tan. so i just thought id let yall kno wat im upto, im not a trader the sub will drive once again by the end of november.