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Thoughts On Barrel Fluting?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by mikey_d05, Jan 7, 2007.

  1. mikey_d05

    mikey_d05 1 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I bought a Remington 700 in 300 Win. Mag. from my uncle. I've already got a 300 mag that shoots well. I wanted something to take apart, accurize, rebarrel, re-stock, pillar, bed, free float, etc. Basically, it's gonna be a 10+ pound rifle that'll push a 125 grain slug at 3200+ fps and be a tackdriver out to 500+ yards.

    From looking at different barrel contours and the estimated weights, I could potentially shave 1/2 pound off my ordering a fluted barrel. It's already gonna be a heavy contour and a heavy rifle, so I don't know if that 1/2 pound is worth the extra expense.

    Does fluting of a barrel provide any additional benefits? I would assume it would act like a heat sink and cool the barrel better. What about rigidity and vibration?

    Based on weight and cooling alone, I would rather stick with a normal barrel. However, if fluting has any additional benefits, I would reconsider.

    Don't ask me why I'm doing this, my uncle bagged an elk, a black bear, and a mulie (at 450+ yards) with this thing in it's current form...with 1 shot each.
     
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    Take both guns out and group them, side by side. Work over the one with the largest groups. That way, if you screw up, you still have one good rifle. 3200+ is gonna be a barrel burner, if you shoot many of those rounds.

    I don't think you will notice a weight reduction of 8 ounces. Heat dissipation on a bolt action, hunting rifle isn't really an issue, unless you are loading and firing as fast as you can.

    Glass bed the action, use a GOOD synthetic stock, free float the barrel, good adjustable trigger. You can get good groups at 500 yards, but only on a calm day.
     
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    Oh yeah, a 5" group at 500 yds, is 1 MOA, better than I can shoot.:doah:
     
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    Fluted barrels are a waste of money on a hunting rifle. Unless your going to be toting the thing long distances, or just like the way they look. That's my opinion.
     
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    The other 300 is a browning a-bolt, sooo...not near as common for parts and such. I'd like to work over the Remington because of ease and parts availability.

    Besides, all of my a-bolts shoot 1/2 MOA or better, my .243 shoots 1/4 MOA consistently on a calm day. :eek1: I just want something to make my own and see if I can do better.

    I think I'll stick with a lighter contour and no flutes. Like I said, it's gonna get pillared, bedded, barrel will be free floated, action blueprinted, etc. My dad has had good luck with Canjar triggers but after tweaking the Remington one last night it seems pretty decent.

    Got any recommendations for stocks? My current two favorites come from McMillan and MPI.
     
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    i am sorry to bud in gun are good and all and all guns are nice.

    but your wrecking my streak you see....
     
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    Huh? I'm confused...
     
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    i have the last reply in many threads this morning.

    OK i am bord not working today and am randomly responding to posts, you guys also postsing are bing a bit of a damper on my little party here..
     
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    a fluted bbl. is strounger, lighter, and will cool faster than a bull bbl.
     
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    Yep, what Surpip said. All about the surface area.
     
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    Kert is that what that new rifle you got has? a fluted barrel?
     
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    I thought barrel strength was directly related to barrel diameter? Fluted barrels are as strong as ones not fluted of the same size. I get the lighter and cooler, but I don't believe flutes will make one any stronger.
     
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    I would be wiling to bet a large sum of money that if you took a bull barrel, and a fluted barrel of the same max outside diameter, it would take quite a bit more preassure to bend the fluted over the non fluted barrel.
     
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    I R Stoopid. What the **** is a fluted barrel:doah:

    Ira
     
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    Sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. The barrels are the same major diameter and you're removing material from the fluted one. I'm not planning on driving a truck over this thing so it doesn't really matter but unless you brace the barrel in some other way...a solid piece will be stronger.

    If there's some work hardening that happens in the fluting process, then it's understandable.
     
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    correct.

    With the same OD, ID, and the same material (no strengthening) the bull barrel, with more material, will be stronger than the fluted.
     
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    Ok, back to the main question, in a 12 or so pound rifle that's not gonna be a prarie dog rifle, is a half a pound worth $100?
     
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    Back on track....

    Not worth it if it's my rifle.
     
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    Damnit. If I'd have caught this post earlier, I could have made some dough, or wagered you out of your tires:doah:.
     

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