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To sipe or not to sipe?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by denver75k5, Nov 13, 2003.

  1. denver75k5

    denver75k5 1/2 ton status

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    Just got some 39.5 tsl's for the rig, should I sipe em? Ive heard good and bad about it , how do you guy's feel about it?
     
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    84_Chevy_K10 Banned

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    Have you seen any after pics from someone who's had it done?

    I'd think it could only help. My TSLs sure do float off the road quickly when driving in the rain.
     
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    rjfguitar 3/4 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    I wouldn't mind trying to sipe mine a little because my boggers are so wide. They do ok in wet conditions usually except if it rains really hard, then they're squirly. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif How do you plan to get them siped?
     
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    siping a tsl is good, especially if you use them on-road. mine dont go on asphault so I have put it off. The guys over at americas tire were willing to sipe the center 2 rows of lugs hella cheap though... think it was $10 a tire or less. Some people sipe their own, and thats fine, but for that low a price I'd prolly rather have the machine do it so the cuts etc were relatively uniform tire to tire.

    j
     
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    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    if you drive on the street allot or in the snow and ice sipe them /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Go ahead and sipe them, I've siped all 3 sets of TSL's I've had. I did them all with a carpet knife. Weeeee!
     
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    sipe em... keeps noise down, better traction, better tire life. Make sure you dont sipe the outer lugs, just the inners otherwise they will chunk driving down the road
     
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    Just got done doing it , I went with this article TIRE SIPING
    thanks guys..
     
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    Cool! Let us know how you like it! Got any pics?? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Also in that article...he mentioned tire truing..$18 a tire!!!?? Didnt Greg72 pay $300 /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Does it cost THAT much more for a larger tire /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
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    Has anybody siped a bogger before?
     
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    I can't see how siping a bogger could really help, but it might be worth a try.

    I'm considering this now. Will it make a tire wear faster?
     
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    Get IROK's, there siped from the factory! /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Cool! Let us know how you like it! Got any pics?? /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Also in that article...he mentioned tire truing..$18 a tire!!!?? Didnt Greg72 pay $300 /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Does it cost THAT much more for a larger tire /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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    Siping.....Truing.....Grooving...... these are not interchangeable terms.

    Siping is the thin slicing of the tread which removes NO material....just creates areas that can open up a bit and get a better "bite" in wet conditions and ice

    Grooving is, well, cutting grooves in the existing treadblocks. Material is CERTAINLY removed for a step like this. The objective is more for offroad flexibility of the treadblocks and to allow the tread to conform to obstacles better. Believe it or not, MORE material is removed in this step than it is for tire TRUING! I saved all the shavings and groovings as proof. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    Truing is the step that most people ignore or avoid (and after spending 6 months looking for a shop that EVEN does it, and then paying to HAVE it done I can understand why! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) Truing is to take non-round tires from Interco and make them round (sarcasm) It's actually a REALLY nice mod for someone who intends to drive big tires on the street/highway a lot.....but it can get expensive.

    I didn't get an "itemized" bill for my recent work, so I can't tell you how much of the cost was Truing vs. On-The-Vehicle Balancing....but, yes the total cost out the door was $300. Given that the process took about 4 hours....I didn't feel that the costs were unreasonable, it IS a lot of work, and requires a decent amount of skill to avoid butchering the tires.
     
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    Sorry guys still havent replaced my digi cam yet,,


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    Get IROK's, there siped from the factory!

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    The price was rite on the TSL's /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Yeah, I understand the difference. I was just going off of what the article posted about said. Mabye he got it wrong /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    "My Swampers were really rough riding with I first got them. I thought they might "break-in" a bit with use (ha!). I thought the siping would help "soften" the ride (HA!). Turns out they were out of round, so I've since had my Swampers "trued" or "shaved" at Rayhill Wheel and Brake in Visalia CA. It cost me $18/tire and was done on the vehicle. The front tires were spun by the machine and a rotating cutter shaved the tread round. In back, we let the engine spin the wheels in reverse and the cutter did the job. This made such a huge improvement in the ride, with those 1/4" high spots removed. However, I had to re-sipe those blocks where the sipes are gone."
     
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    Yep Rayhill is where I was planning to go (4.5 hour drive each way!) until I found the other shop....

    Truing is AWESOME! Now that I know how much it improves ride quality on the street, I'm not going to stop telling people about it.....


    I plan to be as bad about "truing" as Zakk is about 5.13s!!!
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