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towing w/shakle flip?

Discussion in 'OffRoad Design' started by Heavymetal, May 4, 2001.

  1. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    I have read some where that a shakle flip is not a good option for someone that does a lot of towing. I am interested in getting rid of my blocks. I know I can get 4 inch springs, but I am concerned with having a harsh ride. I have a 77' k20 burb that I am building to be a all around vehicle, so these things are important to me. Does anyone have the 4 inch shakle flip and do any heavy towing? If so how does it perform for you? Any problems? Any info is appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Mike.

    77' 3/4 ton Burb, 400cu, sm465, np205, 14boltff, dana44, 4.10s, 36 inch cepeks.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by heavymetal on 05/06/01 08:46 PM (server time).</FONT></P>
     
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    Heavymetal 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    Anyone?


    77' 3/4 ton Burb, 400cu, sm465, np205, 14boltff, dana44, 4.10s, 36 inch cepeks.
     
  3. Brian 89KBlazer

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    Mike

    I don't see why it would make any difference.
    There's no additional leverage that I can see. The springs push on one end of the shackle and the mounting bracket push on the other end. It's the same shackle & the same loads applied. Just because there's a big cradle around the shackle in stock configuration, it's still only mounted by that one bolt which it would still have if inverted as in a shackle flip.

    I've got an alterior (sp?) motive for replying to this as well. I plan to use a shackle flip style setup for my springs on the rear as well because I'm building a new frame & it looks alot easier to build a tension shackle mount as opposed to that big cradle for a compression set-up. I'm hoping I'll get some more people to reply & comment on my opinion.

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  4. JoeAngelicchio

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    I have to agree that there wouldn't be a difference. Some other members have towed and said there were no differences. I also plan on flipping and will be towing with the truck.

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  5. k20diesel

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    4" lift isn't much. A good set of springs with 4" lift is not expensive and will offer the best performance for load carrying and towing. And a good spring won't ride too stiff.

    The shackle flip is a great idea, but in my opinion, it was designed for blazers, 1/2T's and short wheel base trucks to perform better off road and have a nicer ride. It was not intended to carry loads and tow with a 3/4 or 1T truck. It was adapted and will work, but looking at it, it has the same leverage problems as blocks. It introduces a third pivot point and a lever arm - just that the lever is on the top of the spring not the bottom - which helps eliminate axle wrap (something that is not very common on a 3/4 or 1T truck). Not saying its a bad product, its not. It will work, but if you want the best performance towing and hauling, use a spring. If you don't mind a little swaying don't worry about it. Also depends on how heavy a load you have and how well you trailer is balanced.

    I am curious to know what DOT says regarding this? They are cracking down pretty hard around here on guys who exceed their GVW and have modifications on their trucks.
     
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    Heavymetal 1/2 ton status Premium Member

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    Thanks for the input. I have read somewhere something similar in regards to points of leverage and such. I think I will bite the bullet and buy some springs.

    77' 3/4 ton Burb, 400cu, sm465, np205, 14boltff, dana44, 4.10s, 36 inch cepeks.
     

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