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update on Insane Ewok with new symptoms... need advice

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by solowookie, Aug 21, 2001.

  1. solowookie

    solowookie 1/2 ton status

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    OK guys, I got this thing running with the new oil stem, and the oil cooler disconnected / lines taken out... Later today I took this thing to Evanton WY, which is about 40 miles away going 75 at highway speeds, to test this thing out and see how it was gonna respond.

    First of all it ran OK on the way over, but it just didn't sound quite right or feel quite right (even my wife noticed this, and she know's nothing and pay's absolutely NO attention to this kinda stuff so it had to be a BIG difference). When I got over there I was pulling into Wal Mart and got ready to park all of a sudden the PSI gauge burried and it started burning oil... I shut it down immediately, and we did our shopping. (I'm sure the reason that it started burning oil was because of the high oil pressure)

    when we came out, and I started it to drive home (and take the kids to McDonalds, always a MUST with little ones [​IMG]) everything was OK, but the oil pressure (which had only gotten to a little under 60 the whole time since I got this fixed) was idling at 80. as soon as I started actually driving this thing the oil pressure started to drop back to 60, and the whole way home it fluctuated between 70 and 80. also, the thing started to heat up a little when the oil pressure would get up there a little more (either at idle or at highway speeds). Now I gotta new radiator and therm. in this, and the rest of the cooling system has been gone through.

    some how I'm thinking that the increased oil pressure was causing the k5 to run a little hotter...

    so everybody, give me your current recommendations because I have absolutely no idea what would cause all this...

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  2. RESTORE89

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    i think you and bowtied have a K5 possesion
    call a priest[​IMG][​IMG]

    It needs a bigger motor.
    what's in it now?
    doen't matter it NEEDS A BIGGER MOTOR
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  3. solowookie

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    hey, I'd bet a priest would take one good look and tell me it's WAY to severe, and he isn't capable of helping! LOL

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  4. Pugsley

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    Sounds to me like one of two things:

    1) - Some kind of occlusion floating through the oil galleys
    2) - A posessed oil pump

    I'd put my money on #1, and there's several ways of dealing with it - Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase, a can of "Motor Flush", or "the not recommended but alot of guys do it anyway, run 5 qts of ATF through it for a few minutes method". to name a few.

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  5. Jeff427

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    You don't run Fram filters, do you?

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  6. solowookie

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    LOL, no I don't run fram filters... I usually run napa filters.

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  7. Jeff427

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    It sounds to me like something is plugged or partially plugged. [​IMG]

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    I wish I could be of more help. It's kinda ruff diaging stuff over the net. I think I'm hitting 50/50 on the questions from the boards- Kinda tuff on the EGO..

    Anyway.
    -Changed the Oil right? Was it milkie, was the oil fill cap full of foam? - possible coolant cantamination in the oil.
    -Take a peek in the valve cover, see any build up? - Possille, carbon and old oil crusting up.
    -Pull the PCV valve out, put your hand over the hole, is there ALOT of "blow-by"? - Possible blown ring or bad rings. *note* some pressure is O.K., but if there is ALOT or a defenet pulse, then there -might- be a problem.
    -Pull the plugs, check for oily buil up on the plugs. How's it look, and from what cyl? - Possible, blown ring, leaking valve stems or valves or guides.
    -Does it miss under a load? - Possible, oil fould plugs (in this case) or poor compression
    -Miss at idle? - possible fouled plugs, valve guides
    -Blowing <font color=blue>blue</font color=blue> when sterted? - possibly valve stem seals or guides
    -Blowing <font color=blue>blue</font color=blue> under a load? - possibly rings
    -Blows <font color=blue>blue</font color=blue> after highway travel? - posibly, poor oil return to the pan, valve covers are loading up, and dumping oil into the guides. NOT likly and rare, but if the rear plugs are foulded then that -might- be a possible cause. (the engine tilts o the rear)

    -High oil pressure? Yeah, whats up with that?

    Ohh, guess what I'm haveing for dinner tonight.
    Good luck with it. Bums me out your haveing troulbles with it.

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  9. 2Dogs

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    Sounds like a bomb. Be careful and don't let it strand you and the family.....

    I wonder if it has a gob of silicone in the oil passages?
    Is it a rebuilt engine?

    Dave

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  10. solowookie

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    quite honestly I don't know if it is a rebuild engine or not... this engine is kinda hard to tell.

    anyway, I think the first thing I'm gonna do is pull the pan on the bottum, clean it out and see if anything is stuck to the filter on the bottum of the OP...

    next I'll run some mystery oil or foam through, and pull the valve covers... if that doesn't do it I'm gonna start going through twiztid's list until I get tired of playing with it, and them I'm throw in a new motor!!!

    man I just really wish I had Jedi Mind Trick outta the shop [​IMG]... man at least I'd have one good functioning vehicle [​IMG] they are still waiting on my short block...

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    Since you are pulling the pan throw another oil pump on. (unless you find something obvious)

    Dave

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  12. solowookie

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    OK guy's right now I'm about 100% positive I got a blown head gasket or cracked head... [​IMG]

    this thing was idling again today and I notice the oil pressure is going up, and it is 'burning oil' out the exhaust... well I notice the color if the exhaust it a whitish blue... I also can smell antifreeze there! [​IMG]

    could a head problem cause issues with the oil pressure??? (as in fluctuations)

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    I would think there could be a relation if there's enough compression/combustion blow-by from a blown gasket or crack... But I don't KNOW for sure.
    Good luck, man.

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    I got an idea... I'm going to take my pistol out and shoot the stupid thing... then I will definately need a new engine, and I won't have to worry about it!!! LOL

    I think I'm gonna do a few basics like compression and check plugs just to see how those work out. after that I'm gonna drive the thing locally (like no more then 6 miles) and wait until I can get a new engine.

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  15. Easy to find a blown head gasket or cracked/warped head. Water/ coolant in the oil? If so, pull the heads and send them to a machine shop. If it just a blown head gasket, you will want to have the head machined anyway, and if it is cracked, alot of times you can't see the crack, but the machine shop will "mag" the heads before they machine them, and let you know if it is cracked. Costs around $40-$60. Alot cheaper than a new engine.

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    yea I'm sure that is a lot cheaper then a new engine, but I decided a while ago that a 383 was going in this thing when this engine died... it just wasn't suppose to die now, and especially after I already blew the tranny / engine in Jedi Mind Trick...

    I don't really want to pay for the services twice to get the work done...

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  17. They never die at a time when you are ready for it. I definately understand about not wanting to pay for anything twice, as once is hard enough. As we say at work " Scrap It!!". A 383 is the way to go for wheelin' or hot rodding. May the force be with you.:-)

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