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** UPDATE **Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by pauly383, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. pauly383

    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    Well I finally got the hub off, had to bang it off. Heres a pic. Changed over to warn premiums and they are better. So to prevent this get proper allen key and dont overtorque. And also go to ace hardware and get stronger bolts that use larger allen key. So now I have one trail spare.



    I have a question. Was pulling my hubs of last night to change a stud I broke changing tire. Drivers side came off fine. Pass side I rounded of the allen screws on front of hub. They are Superwinch. I drilled a hole in a couple and procedded to break an ez out in the hole. Should I try to carefully drill the heads and try to find new screws? Or should I just buy new locking hubs and forget about it which is faster?
    Thanks,
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    I was able to drill the heads off of mine without damaging the hubs and buy the new screws.



    EZ Outs /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif always turn into more of a headache than they are worth for me.
     
  3. pauly383

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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Thanks, Gonna try to carefully drill first. Should I go in steps since the screw head is conical. Say big bit then proceed smaller and smaller until hubs comes off?
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Drill out the heads of the bolts you can't remove and get some new ones. That will be much cheaper.



    As for using EZ-Outs: I don't call them EZ-Outs, I call them Mo#&*@ Fu&#&%* C&%*$&#*$ ..........oooops, this is a family site.

    Whenever I find one in my toolbox I have a ritual that involves clamping it in a vise and twisting it in half so it is unusable. They work OK about 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time they make LOTS of extra work and end up costing more money.
     
  5. pauly383

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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Thanks /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    I would say drill out the heads and buy new screws. Copper State has better quality screws and they are cheap.
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Where are they at? How late they open? I work at Scottsdale and Mcdowell, get of at 5.Gotta fix it before trail sat, would suck if I had to pull axle on the trail.
    Thanks,
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    This is the closest to you.

    Copper State Bolt & Nut Co
    Address: 3831 E Broadway Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85040
    Phone: (602) 437-8677

    Best thing I've found for looking up stuff like this is the Yahoo Yellow Pages.

    http://yp.yahoo.com/
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Cool , Gonna call em'
    Thanks,
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    That sucks, copper state is only open mon - fri 6am to 5pm.
    Only way I could go is if I left house ant like 5 Fri morning and got there when they opened. I usally get up a 630 and sleepwalk to kitchen for caffeine and nicotine b4 my eyes even open!! Gonna try ACE on broadway after I pick my wife up from work, I took her car today.
    Thanks though
    Paul
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    I usually beat a torx bit into them. Once you do that, they usually come out.
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Two came out like that with square bit, the rest are stubborn . Just got back from Ace Hardware with new screws and some drill bits. Off to do it.
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Well I am done for the night . None of the drill bits I have seem to want to cut the broken ez outs and take off heads. I have a set of pilot tip dewalts and some high speed steel ones. I guess I will have to try some titanium or something.
    Paul /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif [ QUOTE ]
    As for using EZ-Outs: I don't call the EZ-Outs, I call them Mo#&*@ Fu&#&%* C&%*$&#*$ ..........oooops, this is a family site.


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    Nail on the head!! /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    No drill your going to put in a hand drill will cut those ease-outs. They are supper hard and brittle. Try a small, sharp center punch and see if you can shatter it or get it out in pieces by breaking it up. As for the bolt heads, they shouldn't be that bad. A good high speed drill should do the job I would think, but that's just guessing never having tried drilling one of those. If you can get the remaining heads/screws off (tried a reverse bit?) maybe you will have better luck getting the broken stubs out with the slug out on the bench...
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Thanks for the tips. Gonna hafta do something tommorrow. I think I would be ok on Sat, but I don't want to hafta deal with this if I break a u-joint out there. If your there on Sat I'll say hello, my first time with the local ck5 guys. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    Thanks,
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    the only drill bit that has a good chance of drilling those easy-outs out is a cobalt bit, others may work once in a while, but cobalts will work more often, try breaking it first though
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    If you have access to a MIG Welder, there is a trick I have used several times that always works for getting out broken studs and bolts even with broken EZ-outs in them. On small bolts weld a small bead on top of the broken bolt repeating until you have built up enough beads one on top of the other to grab it with a Vise-Grip. The heat from the welder will free up the bolt and it will come out easily. On larger bolts, I weld a smaller bolt or a nut to the top of the broken bolt. Again the heat will free it and you can use a wrench on the smaller bolt you welded on.
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    Well the only welder I can have over here tommorrow is a stick welder. We used it a while back to make 12 bolt axles out of 10 bolt axles and the weld held up ( I have real axles now). Would that make enough heat?
    Paul
     
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    Re: Superwinch Locking hubs.......I Stripped Bolts!!

    I've used and recommended the welder trick many times, but not for this. You'll never be able to do it on those small bolts with a stick. Even a MIG is going to be almost impossible, especially on the ones that already have the heads mostly gone. You'll more likely ruin the dial if you try it on this fix...
     
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    Thanks, gonna try different bits.
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