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Van axles vs. wheel spacers

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by toy4fun, Jun 23, 2003.

  1. toy4fun

    toy4fun 1/2 ton status

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    I was wondering the advantges/disadvantages of running a Van 14FF. vs. a Truck 14FF. with wheel spacers /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
     
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    van axle will make your width the same as the front, making spacers unneeded
     
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    Are the van axles hard (expensive) to get a hold of /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif If I should brake one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
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    A van axle will be easier on your wheel bearings than spacers would be. Spacers or small back space rims = extra leverage on the wheel bearings. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    My .02 for what it's worth.

    (I will now make the disclaimer that I am a Toyota guy and ocassionaly visit this board just for the hell of it)


    There is nothing wrong with running a reasonable spacer. Pretty much all of the guys that have done an SAS on a toy (myself included) run 3/4" spacers on the front. Some guys are now running 1.5" spacers without any problems. Bruce is right, they do create more leverage on the bearings but were talking about a 14bolt here. I don't think that added bit of leverage is going to make any difference on the life span of those bearings.

    Given the difficulty that can be had finding a van housing I would just run a spacer.
     
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    Depends... if you're a trail, mud, sand, small rock guy, spacers will definately be fine. IF you're hardcore into rock crawling, the added leverage will definately catch up to you.
     
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    I'm a Toyota guy also! Lift and Lock what could be simpler? Ay I know my toy (FJ40) does not put enough HP to break any thing (with the exception of an birfield or my wallet)

    Is it worth changing? I have a Truck 14FF and spacers, I can pick a Van 14FF for around $150. None of which is under the truck right now,
     
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    I had heard that the van 14ff's actually used a smaller axle, might be something else to check into....
     
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    Around here van 14b's are more plentiful, but it may be different where you are at. It's probably easier to find an aftermarket axle for a truck 14b.
     
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    Smaller axle? I have a 14FF off a van and the Detroit Locker was the same as for any other 14FF.
     
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    another thing to think about, most of us have 1/2 ton trucks...a 14FF is a 1 ton axle, so whats 1"inch going to do to a one ton axle on a lighter truck...I know a toy guy running 2-1/2" spacers...
    I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
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    what do the spacers run? just curious
     
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    these are around $130.00 shipped

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    [ QUOTE ]
    another thing to think about, most of us have 1/2 ton trucks...a 14FF is a 1 ton axle, so whats 1"inch going to do to a one ton axle on a lighter truck...I know a toy guy running 2-1/2" spacers...
    I'm running the Echobit 8 to 6 lug spacers at 1" inch each side...
    /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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    I'm running 3/4" spacers but I also have custom 2.5" back spaced wheels so that puts me at around 2" from the stock location. I know of guys running 1.5" spacers with 2" back spaced wheels on toys with out issues (and that's with 38.5" SX's) ... and keep in mind that this is on the front where you have the additional complication of steering where as with at 14bolt we are talking about the rear.


    Again, I say run them.
     
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    are those spacers around $130.00 each so two would be $260.00 total...

    Echobit
     

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