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Warn vs. Ramsey vs. Mile Marker

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 89GMCSuburban, Nov 21, 2002.

  1. 89GMCSuburban

    89GMCSuburban 1/2 ton status

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    Warn M12000----------$1,139
    Warn M15000----------$1,299
    Ramsey Patriot 15000 $1,095
    Ramsey RE 12000------$1,095
    MM Hydraulic 12000---$899
    Which one would be best for my behemoth?
     
  2. mudhog

    mudhog THEGAME Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Warn M12000----------$1,139
    Warn M15000----------$1,299

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    well if it was between these 2 for the $160 price differance id go with the M1500 you get an extra 3000 pounds for $160 /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
  3. 4x4k20

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    i would go with the ramsey you cant beat a worm gear drive winch for power and the reliability. just ask anybody in the towing business.
     
  4. hardcore71

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    the most important note i can make between the warn 12k and 15k is the 15k has only 90' of cable where the 12k has 125'. this is what made the difference for me. also i was all gung ho for the mile marker hydrallic winches until my starter crapped out and i had to winch out with the engine off. impossible with a hydrallic. just for info i am moving from an 8k ramsey to a 12k warn. my $.02
     
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    u2slow 1/2 ton status

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    No question - Hydraulic. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

    You can run the thing all day long and it won't overheat. Would be better to run a dedicated pump though...
     
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    I want to go hydraulic. that 1 time you stall somebody else can pull you out
     
  7. Mikeyg79

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    I'd go with a hydraulic. Run em all day (there must be a reason comercial outfits run hydraulic stuff.)
    Got plenty of space under the hood for a pump for a snow plow pump...

    Mikey
     
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    The lack of cabel on the 15k is a real big drawback in my mind.

    Ken H.
     
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    I wouldn't go hydraulic, cause that one time you stall out and you don't have someone to pull you out your gonna kick yourself. Yes hydraulics can run all day, but how much of the day do you really think you'll use it. I have a warn 9000i and did 4 pull within minutes of each other and never showed signs of slowwing down.
     
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    I would say it depends on what your going to use it for. If its for serious 4 wheeling, the WARN hands down. THe 12 K sounds like it would be better, the cable length of 90 foot on the 15,000 really sucks. If you do some serious shopping around, you can probably get the Warn's a little cheaper. Take a look on this site and on Pirate4x4 and see whats on the front of most rigs. There ar WARN winches there for a reason. Hydrolic is great as long as you dont mine the slow line speed, or the fact that your engine has to be running to use it. Then add in that the hydrolic winch while in use makes it about impossible to steer the truck and winch as well (at least the ones that are driven off of the power steering pump, even with the so called valve to fix this problem).

    Depdog
     
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    Depdog 1/2 ton status Author

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    Call Mike at Bent and Twisted for a price, tell em you saw the add on Pirate 4x4

    530-342-3003

    Depdog
     
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    Cool, thanks guys! God, I love this board... One thing, I've seen a lot of burbs use the Warn 8000 lb winch, do they use it because of it's super-reliability or what?
     
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    no reliability difference in the old style WARN winch.
    just Jeeper propaganda.
    if it were a better design dont you think Warn would incorporate it in the entire line of winches?
    or someone would jump on the bandwagon and duplicate it?
    fact is spur gears are the worst style in winch applications.
    I agree with the above post recommending worm drive winches, no need for external braking as it is a design feature that the drum cannot turn the worm
    planetary gears are more effecient at tranfering power but still require a brake be added to hold the drum from turning.
    this leaves Ramsey as the only choice left on your list last I looked
    I would look to the Pierce Sales cheapo ones and go real hydraulic rather then the steering pump MM kits, seperate issue.
    hydraulic KILLS electric in everything other then running with a dead engine.
     

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