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WARNING about Warn winch bumper!

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by Thumper, Oct 23, 2001.

  1. Thumper

    Thumper 1/2 ton status

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    Bad weekend folks. I was winching one of our clubs members' trucks out of a sandy spot on the beach of a lake nearby. The winch started really pulling hard, then "BANG", the upper 2 mounting bolts ripped through the bumper mounts, allowing the winch to rock forward. The club members watching all yelled stop, so I hit the button up to "out" which saved the winch from tearing right off the truck altogether. I posted a photo in my album, <a target="_blank" href=http://coloradok5.com/gallery/thumper/aar>http://coloradok5.com/gallery/thumper/aar</a>
    Take care when winching, the safety precautions have been posted many times on this forum, but something like this really wakes a person up. No one was injured, this time but the potential was there. It kinda reminded me of the strength of the winch. BTW, it was an 8274 8000 lb winch. Awesome piece of kit!

    Mike


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  2. eastk5

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  3. UseYourBlinker

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    Damn...

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  4. ChevyCaGal

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    Dang... [​IMG] Now my other reason to not buy a Warn bumper. I have heard a lot of people complain too that the sides bend easy like if you were to stand on them to work on the engine. That's just scary that pic. Lucky nobody was hurt.....

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  5. BurbinOR

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    Ouch. That is not the 'Warn Classic Bumper', but regardless it is not nice to have that happen. I agree the Warn Classics have weak 'sides' but the center section seems extremely stout.

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  6. Thumper

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    As far as the rest of the Warn unit is concerned, its a very strong winch mount. The center section is built very well and Ive never seen it move at all. The brush guards are pretty flimsy, although it will support my 190 lbs. The main concern is the method of mounting to the truck. They use the upper horn type mount that is on the stock bumper. Apparently that isnt as strong as it should be! It gives me an excuse to build a new one however... now I just have to shop for some ideas.
    BTW, Im not sure of the actual name of the winch bumper, but it is made by Warn, it has the big W pressed into the center plate.

    Mike


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  7. fr8train

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    Thumper is that the modular winch mount system? The one attaches to you stock bumper?

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  8. bigjbear

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    Links not working right now. There is a lot of stored energy when the cable is under tension. Becareful on the trails.

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    That's not a very well designed mount. Not enoungh metal that it's bolted too. I have seen plenty of bumpers that have been hooked and ripped through those front horns.
    I don't trust them unless they have big old flat plates down the sides of the frame ends. Then the mounting bolts backed up with some good grade 8 thick washers or a backing plate. That keeps the bolts from ripping through.

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    Well now you can build a better one. Because well lets face it that one is UGLY jk
    Eric

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    Looks to me that you got the winch mounted up high, therfore creating leverage on the mounts which might be another cause for it to fail, but thats just from what the pic looks like

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    Hi, is anyone familiar with the multi-mount system? Over this past weekend, I picked up a Warn HS9500 with the multi-mount, roller fair-leads, quick connects, and a snatch-block. I bought it all for $600.00 at a yard sale -- it's NEVER been used!!! :) BUT, I was curious, does this system work well, or is it better to get a winch bumper (kinda scary after reading this thread)? Currently, I don't have a draw-tite on the front or the back. Will I do better by going the draw-tite route or the bumper route? I can't fabricate anything myself, but does anyone know if it's real expensive to have one built (I guess at a welder's shop)? It doesn't have to look pretty. :) Just trying to look at my options. Thanks.

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  13. bigjbear

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    Don't forget to check what that hitch pin is rated at.

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    PM mudhog, he has that combo on a multi mount. Our bud Scotty had that setup on his Bronco and it worked great - they both have/had square tube setups welded between the frame horns I believe.

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    I forwarded your concerns to some of our Design Engineers and Customer Service - I'll let you know if I find anything out.

    Sorry you experienced such a failure - Quit using your truck so hard! ;-P
     
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    That looks pretty similar to my Warn setup, just with different brush gaurds. Do you have a body lift? Not that it matters, just trying to figure out if its the same winch. I run an 8274 on mine also, and agree its a bit disconcerting to see how much the thing bends when you put a good load on it. One thing that I do (if I can) on any really hard pull is to run a double line with a snatch block, and run the winch cable back to a tow hook or somewhere else on the frame, not the winch mount. This way the mount only sees half as much force, plus it is way easier on the winch.

    Pete

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    That looks similar to mine, too. Looks like I may need to do some reenforcing. Mike, did you replace all the washers w/ grade 8? Just wondering, because if you did I am going make some changes right away.

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