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Weight of spare parts & tools...

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by 78Buford, Sep 26, 2006.

  1. 78Buford

    78Buford 1/2 ton status

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    I carry a lot of stuff in my trail rig...way too much according to most people. Last night I removed it all & weighed it in the garage, on a bathroom scale. :D

    The complete thread is here:

    http://ohio4x4.fourwardmomentum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3251



    For those not interested in reading all of the other blabber, here is the important part of the post:

    In the order of my removal & weighing of all items in Buford’s bed:

    1. Fluid box #1: 30 lbs.
    2. Fluid box #2: 35 lbs.
    3. Black Treasure Chest Box: 95 lbs.
    4. Spare tire & wheel: 140 lbs.
    5. (4) Ammo cans–drivetrain, electrical, winch/air, tools: 70 lbs.
    6. Lg. Fire extinguisher: 10 lbs.
    7. Box of nuts & bolts: 15 lbs.
    8. Bottle jack: 10 lbs.
    9. Tool Tray: 10 lbs.
    10. 2 ton floor jack: 25 lbs.
    11. Two snatch blocks & one Come-A-Long: 25 lbs.
    12. Misc. Tools on bottom of box: 10 lbs.
    13. Hi-Lift: 30 lbs.
    600 Lbs.

    14. Many tow straps (wet): 20 lbs.
    15. 2" hitch & drop receiver (for someone who may need it": 10 lbs.
    16. Steering box w/Pitman arm attached & bolts: 50 lbs.
    17. Steering shaft from column to box: 5 lbs.
    18. HD Pipe wrench & crescent wrench: 10 lbs.
    19. Drag link: 5 lbs.
    700 lbs.

    20. Complete tie rod: 20 lbs.
    21. Front D-shaft & many yoke parts: 45 lbs.
    22. 3/8" socket set, ½" socket set, cheap wrench set: 20 lbs.
    23. ½" Socket set: 30 lbs.
    24. Misc. Tools in bottom of box: 10 lbs.
    825 lbs.

    25. Spare starter: 30 lbs.
    26. (2) Six Gallon Gas containers (80 lbs combined). (***In the winter, I carry three cans ***)
    935 lbs.

    27. Rear D-shaft in wet box: 30 lbs.
    28. Various large pieces of wood...hi-lift base, jacking point, body mounts in a pinch: 20 lbs.
    29. Large spool of air hose: 5 lbs.
    990 lbs.



    All of the above mentioned items were specifically taken from the bed & weighed tonight. From my mathematics, I have 990 lbs. (If the math is off, it’s pretty damn close....and I’ll correct it at a later date).

    30. Sweeping all of the dirt, mud, leaves, pop-cans, beer cans out from under the tool boxes: 25 lbs.

    1015 lbs (Conservatively in the bed of Buford).

    31. Canned food behind the Passenger side bench seat: 15 lbs.
    32. Dual 8" woofer box behind the seat: 35 lbs.

    Bottom line: I have literally removed 1000+ lbs of weight from my rig in the last few hours.

    Most all people reading this thread cannot realistically cut 1000 lbs from their rig. Take over 1000 pounds of fat off of your off-road rig. Think it would wheel better? Yeah, I agree....no sense in carrying all of that extra weight around...it is hard on parts. At the upcoming picnic, I am looking forward to wheeling Buford (skinny)."


    Come winter.....when it’s cold as hell.......and only the dedicated are willing to wheel............yeah, I’ll pile every single pound of fat/security back onto Buford. Why?

    1. Some of that "fat" has been able to help others get off the trail without having to be pulled all of the way.
    2. It may come in handy....at the oddest times. [​IMG]
    3. If you have further questions, you have obviously not wheeled Quarry in the dead of winter...when things go awry....and the temperature is in the single digits.
    4. Buford has proven capable of carrying all of the extra weight on a regular basis.

    For the Club Picnic, however, Buford is going to be as light as his fat, bent, arse is ever going to be.

    Roy

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  2. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    That explains everything...
    You'll climb more obsicles if you were lighter.

    I know I'm watching every pound I put into my bluggy project.
    Why have a bunch of worthless weight???
    That too can help brake parts.

    If I were you I'd leave more stuff back at the camp site. :)
     
  3. mrk5

    mrk5 The Sticker Guy Moderator Vendor GMOTM Winner Author

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    I've thought about pulling a little trailer with spares to park at the trailhead. Not sure if that would be very handy though. :dunno:

    I just cleaned out everything but the spare tire and some fluids. I was think I dropped a couple hundred, now I'm wondering if it was more. I was carrying 2 front axles shafts, 1 rear axle shaft, front & rear driveshafts, 2 knuckles, spare hubs, 3 medium size toolboxes, 12" square box full of bolts, 2 tow straps, and that's about all I can think of.
     
  4. pauly383

    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    That logic doesn't explain why my 305 powered full sheetmetal truck can work so well with so much crap shoved into it :D
     
  5. 1BEATK5

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    my brother's truck is similiar enough to my own that we split the tools and parts between trucks, this works out, as we only need one set of tools, one recovery equipment set, one steering box, one set of rear axles, and other misc. parts that happen to fit both trucks.
    my truck is getting to be a pig in the first place, and now it has a 42" spare in the back so room for all this crap is getting to be a problem. I hope i don't go wheelin without him I'll be screwed if something on my truck breaks that's in the back of his truck.
     
  6. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    When I mean "Climb" I was speeking of Offroad..
    Buford's been close a couple times...there's a short steep climb
    where we wheel, that tire speed and momentum play a big part.
    But if you have some extra weight, like a 1000 lbs...
    that will leave you sitting at the bottom, staring at my rig at the top.:wink1:
     
  7. jms

    jms 1/2 ton status Author

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    That would work for offroad parks and short trails, but for any trail of significant length like many in the Southwest or the mountains, I don't think that would be a workable solution...
     
  8. pauly383

    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't go "offroad" . I do wheel the chit out of my truck , and hillclimbs are a never an issue :D:D:D
     
  9. JK5

    JK5 1/2 ton status GMOTM Winner

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    LOL...come out here where the rocks are snotty....
    You'll be scratching your head too.;) :D :D
     
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    Kinda related but not really:
    I've got a buddy that commutes 50 miles each way to work. He's got a Camry, and is part of a carpool group with 3 other guys. It was riding like crap on the highway - on a whim they looked at the compliance label, and it turns out that with those 4 in there, the thing was over it's rated weight capacity. The GVWR is only 838 pounds over the curb weight.

    When I went to Baja last year in my truck, I had all my recovery gear, two fullsize spares, a Honda XR, camping gear, spare parts, tools, food, a dump-can of fuel, assorted small items, and the guy riding shotgun was easily 250. I weigh 220.
     
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    pauly383 Daddy383 Staff Member Moderator

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    I am 6 numbers away from affording a LONG road trip . Someday I will take your offer up . Caravan of Ck5 accross America :thumb:
     
  12. OffRoad

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    buford -- do you have any more pics of your truck?
     
  13. JK5

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    Sweet!!!:D :D

    Next year, I've planned to make it to moab...:wink1:
     
  14. JK5

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    Here's his first flop.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. badmix

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    LoL..Nice pic. :D

    I really need to do a weight comparision of my truck empty vs. full. I think you guys would be really surprised what all ive got in my K5. ;) . Im guessing around 400lbs in gear itself. This doesnt include the 2 32" spare tires and Hi-lift jack ive got. So maybe it wont be too bad. Some items I want to carry but dont have spare are things like Axles, starters, Distributor, Ujoints, Basic drive line components. I jus havent built up the supply of those parts. Ive got a new Alternator that is now a spare that ill carry. lol.
     
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    I carried WAY to much. I rolled my 75 (Dollar that Don has now) over a scale with what I considered normal trail gear and spares. With hard top, my fat a$$ and 3/4 tank It was 6640 Lb. Only 400lb over GVWR LOL
     
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    I don't know if I have quite 1000lbs worth of spare parts in the back of my truck but it has to be in the 600-800lb area for sure. My toolbox is 40"wide x 18" tall x 24" deep made from 16 gauge steel. I carry ALOT of spare parts, tools, etc in the truck. Driveshafts, axles, steering box, spare tire, hi-lift, recovery gear, etc, etc, etc. I now carry my second spare tire in the towrig instead of in the 4x4 now that I have a towrig.

    I know I am hurting my performance offroad to some degree but you will never hear me or the people I wheel with bitch about all my stuff when someone is broken on the trail. I have saved my own butt and alot of other peoples butts on the trail with the stuff I carry in the back of my truck.

    Harley
     
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    Agreed. :crazy:

    Roy
     
  20. JK5

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    Hey Roy...got some extra room for a 44" TSL????:p:
     

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