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Welder ideas for Humvee.....

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by yeild2me, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. yeild2me

    yeild2me 1/2 ton status

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    This past trip to Afghanistan brought up a lot of our Hummers weaknesses (that terrain is UNFORGIVING to a 10000# beast!). Anyway, on one particular mission, we were WAY out in the middle of nowhere, one a single lane road, with straight up cliffs going up both sides and a pitman arm broke......Afghani truckers who came up behind us a few hours later, couldnt pass and had to back-up the way they came for 3 miles. We had to wait for the parts to be airdropped in, as we usually dont have mechanics (other than guys like me) or extra parts on hand.

    So,, I was thinking of some sort of on-board welder we could buy when we re-deploy in May. Our team gets x-amount of dollars to buy stuff like this before a trip, so thats no big deal. The M1113's (Gunvees we call em!!) are like all other hummers, except ours have OBA, 110 converters, armor underneath, and 38" TSL/SX's. We dont run front doors, but they do have hard tops, so a welder (premier, Mobi-arc etc) could be mounted underneath the hardtop like the OBA and converter are.

    I also considered the kits that use batteries. Just wanted some ideas considering the enviornment in which we would use it.

    Rob
     
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    cybrfire 1 ton status Vendor GMOTM Winner

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    I would think a welder than runs off your current alternator would be good. Don't those humvess have huge alternators? I thought they were something over 200 amps. I don't remember if they are internally regulated or not.
     
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    yeild2me 1/2 ton status

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    I know they are huge, but dont know too much about them. They run our converters, and those are HUGE!!!

    Rob
     
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    AFAIK HMWWV came with 60 amp (M998), 100 amp (m1037 shelter carrier), 200 amp on the M1097 Heavy Variant. The A2 models may all be 100 amp or better, I only have odd models around here. As far as a welder is concerned look no further than the M1097A1 Contact Maintenance Truck Eng/Ord. They came with a Premier welder and (I think) a seperate 12V Premier altenator to power it. If I can remember to check tomorrow I can give you more info. Work is kinda crazy, we're deploying in a couple of weeks /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

    Another BDAR fix is to make a welder from a slave cable. I've got one like that on my truck (Org Maint gets the short end in a DS unit). It works for trail repairs, but with no Amp control (other than connecting to a 5ton or larger) 24V it's not pretty /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    PS Yes they are internally regulated.
     
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    Hmmmm...I will have to ask my wife about that. The contact trucks in her unit are all the new humvee ones. I am trying to member if our old contact truck had one. I dont think it did because I would of remembered that (Being DS, we had a welding shop).

    I dont know, I dont really want to modify anything, so I guess I will look into getting the dual battery kit.

    Rob
     
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    My head is still spinnin' from work /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif So I didn't get a chance to check the TMs. The newer M1097A2 is quite different; huge rectifier and a 300 amp Thermal Arc welder. It's really too much welder IMHO for a contact truck. The older A1 style Premier Welder was more than adequate for a Forward-Fix. I don't understand your "battery kit" comment. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

    The Army needs discover air tools first /forums/images/graemlins/ignore.gif A 3/4 impact or a cut-off wheel has always been more of a "need" than a 6011 rod. Who wants a 110v power cord wrapped around them when they're knee deep in muck /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
     
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    where are youll deploying? looks like probably Afghanistan for me, possibly Iraq. we just had some troops go to Afghanistan.
     
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    The kits you can buy that includes the ground, stinger, etc. that uses car (12v) batteries. Actually, I liked your idea of the slave cables.

    Looks like Asscrackastan again for us, but it changes everyday!!!

    Rob
     
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    We'er not sure where just yet. First some climatize training at 'Drum /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif Then maybe U-wait, if rumor control is right.
     
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    yellowK20 Well Lubricated Premium Member GMOTM Winner

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    were you in Bagram ??? I spent 2 months in Bagram and another 3 in kandahar last winter/spring febuary-june good to see you home /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Nah, I was at Kandahar over the summer. I heard Bagram sux though!1 Like any of it "Great".
     
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    kandahar was better not near as cold bagrum sucked bad when I was there it's supposed to be built up pretty good me and another guy did all the air field lighting in kandahar and bagram it was pretty cool
     
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    In a pinch ....out on the trail ,,,we used 3 -12volt batteries cabled together with jumper cables and a arc welding rod to weld a broken heep !!!! I wouldnt bet my life on it ....
     

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