ok... my wife was great to help me in the later stages of getting Darth Blazer painted. (she saved my bacon more then once) anyway I took her to one of my favorite fishing spots on saturday, and it was there first time she had went to the particular place with me. well there are a couple willows that are close enough together they'd scrape the sides of a heep, let alone a k5. here eye's get real big, and she looks at me "are you going to go though there?" LOL /forums/images/icons/shocked.gif/forums/images/icons/blush.gif me, I don't respond at all, and we go scratching through as it knocks my mirrors in "why do you think I put cheap paint job on this thing." so now Darth Blazer has officially been crissened - it has a scratch down both sides that start from the front & go to the rear.