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What did you pay to get your perches cut and welded?

Discussion in '1973-1991 K5 Blazer | Truck | Suburban' started by bigblue, May 22, 2001.

  1. bigblue

    bigblue 1/2 ton status

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    What did you pay to get your spring perches cut and welded? I am wondering what you all paid. I got an estimate for $250.00. It sounds kinda steep for me but I need it done. I am suposed to get it done Wed. but will hold off if this price is way too high. Also if anyone got it done in San Diego / So Cal area where did you get it done? Thanks

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    Hey,
    Don't know SoCal but am intersted in hearing the outcome of your project. Can you provide details when you are done?
    I noticed on another post that you are 'cutting and welding'
    the rear - you were referring to the perches?
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  3. Russ

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    I got a psychotic price like that from MIT in San Diego once. I would call over to Border Parts in La Mesa and talk to Trent (471-0075). He does an outstanding job and has never charged me more than 30 or 40 bucks. The only bad part is you will have to take the axle out and bring it to him. That was worth saving a few hundred bucks to me though.
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    Im doing this to an axle of mine now.Im moving them over 1" towards the end of the axle.Didnt realize that they were in the wrong place before I rebuilt the axle.I got new perches from Summit . They were only $20 .This should only take me a couple of hours to cut off the old ones position the new ones and weld them on .Is most of that $250 labor? It does sound a little steep.

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  5. bigblue

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    Thanks Russ I am going to give him a call.

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    Hey Jeromy,

    I would buy the new spring perchs first and then find someone to do the rest. Try some good fab shops, they tend to be less than most welding house's. A friend of mine that I work with knows some guys at a fab shop in San Marcos, but he won't be in untill Wed. or Thurs. so I can't talk to him untill then. Good luck

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    You did not say whether the axle is on the truck. I dropped off the perches and axle to a local welding shop. They cut the old ones and welded the new ones for $75 . You can do better than $250 unless they are removing the axle from the truck , providing the perches, and reinstalling the axle.
     
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    WOW!!!!! [​IMG] $250.00 to do a reweld job!!!! No way I would shell out that much cash for a simple job like that!!!!
    Dont you know of any buddies who are welders or know how to?
    Be careful using those perches. I assume they are simple "car-type" perches, and not heavy duty types like on the trucks. If they are the "car-types", check out on the main page about some home made heavy duty perches. These are made from 2.5" square tubing and 1/4" thick wall. These are alot stronger than those from Summit or Jegs or any other parts stores. The bulletproof perches were done by Depdog and can be seen at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://off-road.com/chevy/tech/perch>http://off-road.com/chevy/tech/perch</A>.

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    Does it ever work to re-use the old perches?

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    It depends on what perches you took off. If they are the stamped-steel type, more likely than not, when you torch them off, you are "shortening" them. In other words, you are torching the weld and some of the perch metal off the bottoms where they sit on the axle. I would not reuse perches as they may not be perfectly level or even with the other side because of the amount of metal that was torched off. Even a plasma cutter could do the same thing. It is always a wise idea to purchase new perches or fab some up like Depdog did. Those perches he made definitely are NOT going anywhere!!!!!! [​IMG]

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    I did this on my 1 ton 14 bolt. Taking the perches off is a tough job....welding them back up is easy.
    If I was to do this for someone, I would charge them $75.
    Second, I would NOT use a cutting torch to remove the perches. As much as I love to use my Oxy-Acety, I wouldn't use it for this. What I did was grinded the hell out of the welds with my angle grinder and then after all the welds were grinded out, I smacked it with a 3lb sledge and off it went. I have pics if you want to see em.
    I reused the perches. If you're careful, you can. I made no damage to mine. As far as the shock mounts, I torched them off and did not reuse them. I custom did the rear mounts to point inward at the top like DepDogs and welded that on instead.
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    The perches I got are made by Morroso and I got them from Summit. They are identical to the ones on the axle in thickness and shape and fit perfectly on the tube.I was gonna make some but they were only $20.

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    Wes, that is a killer link and I think I am going to do that. That seems like a perfect stronger way to do it. Great Article.!!

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    Forgive my ignorance (always learning something!), but what are spring perches and what does cutting and welding them do? Is that to move the axle back and forward er something?

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    Spring perches are those pieces of steel that are welded to the axle and are located right under where the leaf springs are bolted to the axles. Different vehicles have the springs mounted at different widths, so the spring perches are installed to match that width.

    So if you take a 14-bolt from a 1-ton truck, the spring perches are mounted closer to each other than they are on a 3/4-ton truck (which happens to use the same width as our beloved K5's). [​IMG] So if you want to install a 14-bolt from a 1-ton truck in your K5, you have to cut off the old spring perches and move them to the correct location to match up with the leaf springs on your K5.

    Does that help? [​IMG]

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    Ah! Yes...thank you very large [​IMG].

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    HarryH3 covered it, but here is what a spring perch is with a pic.

    This is when I removed it.
    http://www.zing.com/picture/pb3b90ce27d7f9f7231c96cbdac92f947/fe82e27e.jpg.orig.jpg
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    EVERYBODY, take note!!!!!

    If you are wanting to relocate the perches on a 3/4 or 1 ton rear axle, keep in mind that there are two different types of perches.
    1. 73-84 full floater rears ALL have cast iron perches. These are the 'harder-to-remove' perches.
    2. 85-91 full floater rears ALL have stamped-steel perches. These are much easier to cut off and reweld because they are not made of a cast part. These perches can be torched off or plasma-cut.
    This is just a general idea of what you would be looking at when you find your next full floater rear.

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    K30,
    Yeah, you're right. I've had 3 different 14bolts in my garage once, and one of them had a wierd looking spring perch. It sat lower I think and it had a "nipple" if you will, that goes into the leafs I guess. But the normal ones (like you see in my pics above) are the ones to go for I guess. Anyhow, thanks for clearing that up. Again..I still wouldn't use an Ocy-Acety torch to take them off.....A plasma would be reallllllyyyyy nice to use...but who has one?? :)
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