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What should be atop my priority list?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by mountainexplorer, Jan 21, 2006.

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Which should I concentrate most on bringing (pick 1 tow rig and 1 play rig)

  1. Big Crew Cab on 44's with 496 (tow and play)

    30 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. GMC on 39.5's with 468 (tow and play)

    8 vote(s)
    14.0%
  3. Truck Blazer on 40's with 396 (play only)

    24 vote(s)
    42.1%
  4. Zebra Suburban (play only)

    2 vote(s)
    3.5%
  5. Swamp Thing (play only)

    4 vote(s)
    7.0%
  6. Little Crew Cab (tow and passenger only)

    2 vote(s)
    3.5%
  7. 81 Suburban (tow and passenger only)

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  8. Motorhome (passenger, tow and portable home)

    16 vote(s)
    28.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. mountainexplorer

    mountainexplorer 1/2 ton status

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    I'm no longer holding mud bogs/races at my place, but will concentrate this year on getting a big group of us to go to a big mud bog nextdoor over in Idaho. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8951366171866200713

    I have several options in my mind of what I want to take; the goal is to take most but not all rigs from the list:

    1. The peoples favorite choice (at least everyone I know) the Big Crew Cab- it's currently on blocks meaning I'd need to do the following- Have a 496 stroker built (I can have an engine builder I know put one together for $2300), install 5.13 gears up front, buy and instal 5.13's in the back. Finish the rear shackle flip and lift spring install. Get an NV4500 2wd 5spd or other 2wd tranny and Divorced Dodge 205 T-case and install them. Have drivelines made, put the motor in, hook up the police light bar, mount the other two 44s on rims. If this runs it will be used as a tow rig and drive on the highway there towing something.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/39673189/1040040051033211152Kcvhpq
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/39745434/1060542079033211152OaYFju


    2. My 1980 GMC on 39.5 Boggers. Needs: 468 motor shortblock assembled (have done by engine builder since if I do it it will blow up), add closed chamber heads, Comp cam etc... and install it. Put 4.88 gear'd axles under it, change rear spring setup. This will drive on the highway there towing something else.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/113697439/1224960330033211152RqiazL

    3. The Truck Blazer on 40's. Needs: Repair crank and new bearings in 396, add gear drive. Put motor in and exhaust. Fix two broken bolts in Dana 60 front. This would be towed or could drive itself there.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/41363667/1224945869033211152okyZNG

    4. The Zebra Suburban. Group project currently a body on blocks. Needs: Pull 402 BB out of motorhome, put comp 280 cam in it, change intake and valve springs, install in Suburban, put rebuilt TH350 and 203 in it, 8" lift springs, possibly buy 4.88 gear'd 3/4 ton axles for it, weld rear spider gears, put 38" Swampers on it, paint it black/white striped.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/28203132/1028832375033211152lCHbXMGNWd

    5. Swamp Thing. Group project. Needs: Welded 4.56 gears installed in 14-bolt housing, Dana 60 from Alaska crew cab bolted under front, engine crossmember bolted in, TH350/203 pulled out of parts Blazer and put in, Cab off of '84 Crew Cab swapped onto frame, see if 350 motor with 292 cam runs or not, mount 44" Swampers up.
    http://coloradok5.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/4489/cat/500/ppuser/3671

    6. The Little Crew Cab- Tow vehicle for Zebra Suburban- will also have a camper on it.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/30804775/1026074469033211152MZzcUUkWzZ

    7. My Suburban- would be a tow rig/passenger vehicle, currently on blocks Needs: New cam for 454 and re-installed, NV4500 5spd mated to 205 and installed, change both axles.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/38184659/1229962571033211152CHjJAz

    8. Motorhome- what several of us will stay in and keep food/supplies in- would tow pickup box trailer with spare parts.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/466879379/1468145135033211152JwEbMk
     
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  2. spoolnaround

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    I like the BIG CREW and Blazer options ;) . It looks like you guys up there do mainly mud so that crew set up is badd arse!
     
  3. muddybuddy

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    big crew cab x1000
     
  4. jk3078

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    Big crew cab and blazer got my vote! That truck looks like the 84 I bought, and I love crew cabs in the mud!

    Theres more than just mud at the Moyie Mud Bog. Justin said this year the rock crawling course is getting worked over with more difficult obsticles.I'm planning on being up there when they do it so we can get it as crazy as possible.:eek1: They are also talking about making an easier trail for the weeny trucks. :haha: The Course is currently 1/4(?) mile up hill in a small muddy creek bed with large rocks and well placed logs, mud holes,and pits:bow: :bow:
    Sorry for the hi-jack Allen.
     
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  5. mountainexplorer

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    Thats no hijack... thats where we're going! :D

    Sounds like I might have to add my Camo Blazer to the possible list if I decide to do anything besides mud. But it's a frame and body on blocks too at the moment.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/40203167/1040203462033211152LdQcav
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/30804431/1036094983033211152CeAGIs

    I can't decide for sure... I have mentally put about 8 different theoretical motors in it over the last 5 years without actually doing anything. My latest idea was a 402 BB, but now I'm thinking of staying with a small block for weight... now it's between a 350 or SB400. It will stay low yet flexible and be on 38's, with a welded 60 front and 14 rear with Detroit and 4.88 gears. Who knows, I may show up with it if I get it together sooner than anything else.

    The Big Crew Cab is my 1st choice and what most people I know say I need to bring there... just cause it's big... not just tall but long too. Even with 15" of lift and 44's it won't be the biggest, but I think it'll be fun to pile everyone in it (and in the back with seats and belts I'll mount in the bed) and roar through the mud pit with the police lights on and my PA speaker hooked up to music. But it's also the most expensive project to finish. I don't have 2300 bucks to spend on the motor... plus all the other parts it needs. And if I blow up that motor (which I do to all my motors) it's a lot of truck to try and tow home.
    http://community.webshots.com/photo/45351658/1045402988033211152SNxYqp

    [​IMG]
     
  6. ProJunkRacing

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    where and when is this
     
  7. jk3078

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    Hey Allen, its nice to know I'm not the only one with 100 ''theoretical'' builds! Good luck on the crew-cab, and I hope to see you in Camo up on the rocks


    MOYIE MUD BOG! May 12-14, Moyie Springs Id. Here's a couple pics from the rock crawl last spring. They dont do it justice, its harder than it looks in the pics! Theres been 4 roll overs that I know of and many broken drive trains!

    IM000365.JPG

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  8. thatK30guy

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    Wow. I'm just amazed at all the rigs you have there. My jaw is still on the floor.

    Off topic: I gotta ask what do you do for a living to be able to buy all that stuff? If I knew your secret, then I could do the same down here in the mid-west.
     
  9. ProJunkRacing

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    got a link to a website i am in Illinois that could be a first time out for the rig but i need to know whereabouts so i could see if it is feasible to go
     
  10. mountainexplorer

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    Alot of people I know think I have money or make good money or have alot of money. None of those are true. When I was 14/15 years old I started on some borrowed money and tried fixing up/re-selling a couple rigs, then started parting a few out. I just kept doing this re-investing money over and over again making a few bucks from parts on rigs and building up spare parts (keeping what I don't sell) to be able to build my own. For the most part, every vehicle I have is a combination of used parts I've kept off other parts trucks. I usually try to keep the 4x4 hobby as self sustaining... meaning if what I want to buy is truck related then it has to be paid for by the sale of parts I have or vehicles. There's a few exceptions... the '87 1-ton 4x4, '81 Little Crew Cab and part of the Big Crew Cab initial purchase prices (and the shop) were paid for by money from logging the family property, and several rigs belonged to us (my dad) before he died including the '68 C20, '64 and '73 Internationals, '80 GMC, and a couple cars. I also was lucky enough or spoiled enough to have been given the Scout II, Wagoneer and '78 C20 (now K20) by my dad and mom as gifts when I was 14 and 15. I think my dad felt that since he had me so late in his life that he knew he wouldn't be around too long, so he wanted to give me something... also since he was against smoking drinking and drugs and I never showed interest in any of that- only an interest in vehicles and fixing things up- so he wanted to support that.

    I've also done a few side jobs here and there to pay for part/things I've wanted. So far from my calculations, I should have less into all the vehicles I have than most people have into one new car. And from wheeling and dealing I have what I consider an inventory of used parts instead of money in a bank accound. Not smart by some means... but nevertheless, instead of money laying around, it's all stored in the form of parts and vehicles and is my goal to try and generate more money or value out of the parts than what I have into them. I don't always make money- I often try to sell parts to friends or on here on a break even basis and sometimes the most I make if any is just a profit of "more parts" that I need. What's nice is that I rarely have to (if ever) buy things like alternators, carbs, starters, water pumps or other items like that new since I keep every good one off parts rigs. Same with batteries. Only thing with using used parts all the time is I'm often swapping them out alot more often, but thats ok by me.

    With most motors, I usually try and get a good motor for basically a core price. For example the last 454 in my Orange Blazer I traded into it for about 500 bucks worth of stuff and a 350 in the end (gave $2000 cash and $500 trade for a 72 K5 with the rebuilt 454 in it and sold the K5 for $2000 cash with a 350 in it)... ran it hard, had fun and messed it up... and recently traded it off as a rebuilder for my 500 value back again.

    Swapping stuff around so much is alot of work, but it beats going out and spending $800-$1500 on a rebuild everytime I need a motor and then having me blow it up and not be able to regain my money back again. However for the Big Crew Cab... I want a 496 and want a motor that is built the way I want. $2300 is alot (but not bad as far as 496's go for), but I'm thinking if I sell my '83 K30 and a few other parts laying around, I can pay for the motor. I just stick with my original plan... money for things I want for vehicles has to be generated by the parts and vehicle I already have now. I try to run it as it's own separate account. Whenever I get cash from parts... I try and re-invest most of it back into more parts or vehicles. And of course alot goes in my gas tanks as well. :crazy:

    Wow, I wrote way too much again. Anyways, that should sum up how "The Fleet" came to exist.
     
  11. mountainexplorer

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    They don't have a website unfortunately. More pics/info are here: http://www.spokane4x4.net/bonnersferry.html

    http://www.precision-offroad.com/pictures/moyie1.html

    http://community.webshots.com/album/480358007HvLMrm

    http://www.kvpress.com/news/articles05/0511mudbogprn.htm

    http://www.bonnersferryherald.com/index.asp?Sec=news&str=1133

    http://www.ruralnorthwest.com/artman/publish/article_4969.shtml

    http://www.kvpress.com/news/articles/040508mudbog.htm

    http://www.mudallica.50megs.com/Moyie.html

    Peterson's 4-Wheel covered the event in 2003 in an article called "Kreijci's Mud Bog". To them it wasn't one of the hugest events they had been to... but for us in the Eastern Wa/N. Idaho area it's the biggest thing around as far as mud bogs/off-road events go.

    Here's a couple video clips from up there.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7662462720673033027&q=mudallica

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7991831559285948100&q=mudallica

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3773046058673268456&q=mudallica

    Don't be fooled by the looks, it can get much deeper and nastier. Guys with 44" Boggers get stuck. But it's fun cause theres easy lanes where anyone can take their stock rig and have fun too without getting buried.
     
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    that looks awesome but it is 1900 mi away so a sort of stretch for me
     
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    It is a fun time... but I don't think I'd drive almost 2000 miles to go for a weekend. I'm sure there's off-road and mud bog events just as big closer to you. I see stuff I want to go to all the time but the thing that stops me is distance.
     
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    yup
     
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    mountainexplorer,
    I just watched the video of where you are going.. its awsome
    thanks,
    James
     
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    all i gotta say is i wish i could go
     
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    PS- I am going to redo the Moyie link soon that Allan posted earlier... I have a ton of good pics on the weather is nasty outside... I should have plenty of time tomorrow to fix it up! I'll re-post the link when it's done
     

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