I am trying to upload the pics right now (frikkin camera). Anyway-I did this freaknasty wheelstand climbing a hill in my truck...the wheels were spinning, then the rear grabbed traction while on an incline (hooray Gov-Lok!), and BAM! The only thing that kept me down was my big-ass M1009 rear bumper...thanks crappy departure angle. Holy pucker factor, Batman! /forums/images/icons/blush.gif I love scaring myself!