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Where can I find a 205 front output flange?

Discussion in 'The Garage' started by chvyhs, Sep 8, 2004.

  1. chvyhs

    chvyhs 1/2 ton status

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    /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif I'm intalling a 32 spline front output shaft in my 205. I don't have a front output flange so, before I go out trusting the local wrecking yard. I need some info from this bank of knowledge. I need it to be able to mount it to a 1350 CV joint. I haven't ordered my d-shaft yet, so I have some room to play.

    Thanks
     
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    High Angle Driveline has a patent on the very flange you're looking for.

    Fords do not use a CV front shaft to my knowledge, all of them are 1330 u joint front shafts.
     
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    I really doubt he has an enforceable patent on flanges for a 205 as New Process built thousands of them, same as Interco couldnt defend the TSL patent application, but that is besides the point.

    Is OEM Ford application not the source of his 1350cv?
     
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    Yes but not on a 32 spline output shaft.
     
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    I do not think that is enough of a change
    no 'new' idea in there at all just a spline count change
    what is the patent number or some other info to look up what is patented?
     
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    There is another way, I have seen on a website that said either the 1310 or 1330 CV flange shares the same bolt pattern as the 1350.....32 spline flange from a dodge or ford that was a 1330 I believe, you need to have it cut on a lathe to change the side of the locating bore...viola..32 spline flage. Thing is though, jesse's flange really isnt all that expensive, but the method I told you will work as a cost savings if you have a lathe.
    That's the only plavce ive seen it, and ive looked for it and cannot find it again, it even had the size you need to cut it to.
     
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    You are correct. The pilot is what needs machining. He does the same thing to the Saginaw CV flange for 30 spline outputs.

    There is no factory 32 spline flange for any size CV AFIAK, that is why Jesse has a patent on it.
     
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    Get yourself a 208/241 front flange, they are 32 spline. The bolt pattern is the same as what Jesse uses for his 1350 C/V. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    Are you sure? I believe that would be 30 spline. I've actually got a front output for a 208 around here somewhere, but I'm pretty sure that would be a 30 spline output.
     
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    /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif Hmmm, now you have me thinking.

    Nope, definately 32 spline, i just went out to the garage and counted the splines. I also looked back at my receipt from ORD for the front output I bought and it is a 32 spline. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    I can't believe that! I pretty much gave away my 241! If I knew it had the flange I needed I would've atleast kept that part.

    Thanks for all of the info. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
     
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    [ QUOTE ]
    I pretty much gave away my 241! I

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    YOU WHAT?????????????????????
     
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    The front output flange on my HD 241 ( Dodge ) has 32 splines. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
    Tom
     
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    Yes, but are the Seal sizes and critical dimensions the same for a 241? A flange of a ford/dodge 205 would gurantee that it is.

    So let get this in concrete, which drivshafts share the same pattern, 1330 and Saginaw?
     
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    As of now we believe the 1350 CV and the Saginaw CV share common bolt locations.

    The pilots in the center are different though so machine work will be required to make one flange work for another application.
     
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    Dodge Cummins Trucks....Saginaw or Dama/Spicer CV's?

    Basically trying to hammer down a black and white so we can go put this in tech articles/advanced prreviews.
     
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    All my books show a Spicer 1330 CV for the front of a Dodge truck.
     

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